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Topic: differing neck volumes |
Kevin Ruddell
From:
Toledo Ohio USA
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Posted 2 Apr 2004 10:42 pm |
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Does anone else have this situation. My Fender Dual 8's inside neck is louder that the other. My Magnatone D8's outside neck is louder than the inside neck !
All four necks have tunings with E as the top string.
Any suggestions welcome |
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Ron Whitfield
From:
Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2004 12:49 pm
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| That's common with most multi necks(usually, the outside being the loudest/most toneful), and I havn't heard the complete reasoning for it. I just put on a tuning that fits best(to my ears) with each neck, to make it a positive rather than a negative, and hope for the best. The most common answer is the increased mass has a lot to do with it. But your Mag's inner neck being louder is not the norm for most steels(very interesting), and my Mag Lyric was the opposite. [This message was edited by Ron Whitfield on 03 April 2004 at 12:55 PM.] |
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Alvin Sydnor
From:
Boothwyn, Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 3 Apr 2004 6:17 pm
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Kevin. I was ready to post the same question, my front neck is not as loud as the inside neck on my Fender D-8 Pro.
The next question is What should the resistance reading be for each pickup???
Will be looking for responses
Thanks and
Keep on pikin
Alvin |
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Dwayne Martineau
From:
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 3 Apr 2004 8:48 pm
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I have the same problem on my '53 triple-neck National.
There is some info on this thread: http://steelguitarforum.com/Forum2/HTML/004886.html
Please let me know if you solve it! I haven't had a chance to try any of the solutions yet. |
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Mark Durante
From:
St. Pete Beach FL
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Posted 3 Apr 2004 9:06 pm
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| The middle neck of my T-8 Stringmaster is louder and fuller sounding than the other necks when I play unplugged. I would think it's a combination of the pieces of wood and how they are attached or glued together. |
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Kevin Ruddell
From:
Toledo Ohio USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2004 12:17 am
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Ron , actually my Magnatone D8 's outsde neck is the louder of the two , it's my Fender D8 that has the louder inside neck volume.
I looked inside the Maggie's control plate and everything looks original except possibly the pup wires from the quieter inside neck . The inside neck pup is out of phase when set to the center toggle selector ( all on ) and both tone only works for the outside neck. For the center and inside toggle selector it functions as a volume. Maybe a factory goofup. At any rate , I'm going to put new pots and switch in and wire it properly. The pup magnet polepiece on the inside neck for the fourth string sticks up just enough to make the string fret out past the 14th fret so that may need to be filed down or pushed down a sixteenth of an inch |
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Ron Whitfield
From:
Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 4 Apr 2004 3:53 pm
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| Check, sorry for my misread, Kevin. Still, it's odd that your Fender(or any multi neck) would have the 'problem' of a louder inside neck. I'm looking forward to someone varifying the reason for the vol/tone change in opposing necks on most vintage multi's. |
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 4 Apr 2004 4:06 pm
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| If you are talking about acoustic sound I have nothing to add but if you are talking about plugged in, I think it is fair to say that it is not at all unusual for these old pickups to lose magnetic charge and not surprising if they do not all have equal output. A visit with Doctors Aiello and Lollar may be in order. |
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Jody Carver
From:
KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 4 Apr 2004 4:39 pm
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What you describe is normal. Every Fender I have played and owned had the same characteristics.
Inside closest to the player is full and the outside neck a trifle less. Crank it up and you wont hear the difference.
Are both your ears the same? is your profile
the same when you look in the mirror?.
Factory specs for Trap pickups I beleive is 8K ohms..have Lollar rewind them to 11K he did mine and they sound great.
Hail to the new chief of pickups.
Jason (I can make em hot) Lollar
www.lollarguitars.com
That was the answer I received from LF when
I asked him years ago.
You would imagine as I have that the outer neck having more wood,would have the bigger
sound. Check your pants..one leg is a bit longer than the other.
God made it that way. Leo Fender was the God
of Steel Guitars.  Jason is the new Chief[This message was edited by Jody Carver on 05 April 2004 at 06:19 AM.] |
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Jody Carver
From:
KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 6 Apr 2004 12:45 pm
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Ok Ok..so I'm pulling your leg,,but what you refer to is characteristic with most all Fender non pedal guitars.
I will post exactly the words and explanation
explained to me by Leo Fender.
Stand By for a bit..I have a few priorities
to attend to.
Thanks for your patience. I'll be back. |
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