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Jim Bob Sedgwick
From:
Clinton, Missouri USA
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Posted 19 Mar 2006 10:20 pm |
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Money will NOT make you happy. But, it makes the misery easier to live with. 
Money is the least of my worries. I guess that's because it is the commodity I lack the most. !!! |
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Jim Phelps
From:
Mexico City, Mexico
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Posted 20 Mar 2006 12:08 am
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 20 Mar 2006 3:36 am
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well, with all due respect, we are a pretty thin crowd over here...
One of the posters here states often that he plays in a cover band..
I don't happen to play in a cover band but we do several covers..whatever that means...
Personally I would say..don't limit yourself to playing songs that YOU only like...
I don't happen to like Korean cars but if someone is driving me to Dinner..I'm gettin' in...
Not every song is good, not every song is bad..
we all hear things differently..but the thing we have in common is Music and musicianship...
we don't have to like it..but we should know how to play it....
Like I said earlier, we do a monthly gig where this song, for now at least, is requested..we decided to play it..and we do..
When I tell you it packs the dance floor I am not stating 100 or 200 people..I'm stating 400 maybe 450...
We get gigs to play songs people like..at least that is supposed to be the plan..
when was the last time you got a gig for being a great band or player but told . "Man you play lousy songs" ?
I think not..
even an average or lessor band who has a great set list ..gets work..
It's not selling out..it's a form of music that many of us may not really "DIG" but in the scheme of things it is music...
and evidently someone likes it...
If we as Steel players maintain that we must play traditional Steel tunes all the time in the mode of Buddy or Loyd..then I suspect we will not be playing Steel in front of all that many people very often..
Am I selling out by playing the song with the Band ?..I guess some may say I am..but the simple fact is..it's 3 or 4 minutes of playing time once a month..
We cover three songs like this, including Hicktown which I absolutley hate..and believe it or not..Save a Horse..
Let me be perfectly clear about this..When I tell you that Donka Donk packs the floor, which it does, it isn't even close to what happens when we do "Save"....The place goes into a frenzy...
Now just so you know we are not a sellout band, our setlist is crammed with George Strait, Merle, AJ, George Jones , Paisley, Vince Gil, etc...we just happen to throw a few of these SELLOUT termed songs into the setlist...
I don't have a Yacht..but the pay ain't that bad...
by the way , the donka donk thing , come to learn, is a BIG BUTT...
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TPrior
TPrior Steel Guitar Homesite
[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 20 March 2006 at 03:39 AM.] |
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Ben Elder
From:
La Crescenta, California, USA
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Posted 21 Mar 2006 12:26 am
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As a hard-core aficionado of country music (as opposed to that which emanates from Nashville), I don't listen to contemporary country on the radio (10, 12, 13, rarely 14 but never 11 and 16 on XM) and GAC and CMT are just DirecTVlexia to me. (Brad Paisley is A-1 but he's so good, his popularity is probably due to an oversight by someone on 16th Avenue S.) With the foregoing credentials, I can truly say I have almost no idea what this thread is about. (And I'm hoping I don't find out. Trace Adkins is one of those historic old roads from Nashville down into Mississippi, right?)
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Pat Kelly
From:
Wentworthville, New South Wales, Australia
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Posted 21 Mar 2006 1:02 am
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| I wonder whether some of these gents want to be entertainers or artists........ |
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Bob Carlucci
From:
Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 21 Mar 2006 12:45 pm
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crap
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Charles Davidson
From:
Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 21 Mar 2006 7:42 pm
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| Not just crap,pure *^%#!!!! |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 22 Mar 2006 2:41 am
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so what you re saying is that..if you get a call for a gig or to join a working club band..and are actually being paid a few bucks..more than the cost of Gas and Beer..
and the song was requested..and the bandleader decided to play it...
you as the Steel player would:
A: Play it
B: Not play it
At the end of the day this is really all that it comes down to.
Me, I'm thinking that over the past 40 years I've played a whole lot of songs that I didn't particularly care for..
But I played them...
How about you ?
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TPrior Steel Guitar Homesite
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Larry Strawn
From:
Golden Valley, Arizona, R.I.P.
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Posted 22 Mar 2006 7:04 am
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Well,, I don't care for the song, don't play it, but we are beginning to get a "lot" of request for it!
Since pleasing the customers is what keeps us booked, I quess it'll go into the rehearsal list! |
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Joe Miraglia
From:
Jamestown N.Y.
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Posted 22 Mar 2006 8:57 am
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Tony--It looks like we're working with same band-want to trade some night? Except I only play steel! We do the cover on DONKA-
DONK, SAVE A HORSE(mixed with a little of Cowboy Troy's CHICKEN WITH A TRAIN) and then we might go into SLEEPWALK or FOLSOM PRISON--people love it--young or old. On some of the songs I use a Super Overdrive Boss or BRO effect for dobro. I am having more fun playing these songs and watching the people than I did back when I was playing the "traditional" country ,kind of makes me laugh  Joe www.willowcreekband.com |
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Charles Davidson
From:
Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 22 Mar 2006 8:59 am
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| Fortunately our band[Muscogee Slim and the Old South] play ONLY original material.We don't WANT to,Don't HAVE to,and REFUSE to play this top forty *^#@ being put out today.Works for us.You DON'T have to be a LEMMING to get work. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 22 Mar 2006 11:08 am
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what is LEMMING ?
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Marlin Smoot
From:
Kansas
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Posted 22 Mar 2006 11:45 am
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I have no idea if this is the right one, but it's a start...
Lemming (noun) A short-tailed, furry rodent known for its peculiar habit of committing mass suicide by hurling itself -- along with hundreds of over Lemmings -- over steep cliffs and into the ocean.
In the world of pro wrestling, the term "lemming" began in the 1980's, referring to the WWF's large percentage of relatively uninformed, somewhat gullible, and fiercely loyal fans. In the 1990's, a "lemming" is a term bestowed on narrow-minded, biased fans for any promotion, not just the WWF. |
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Donna Dodd
From:
Acworth, Georgia, USA
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Posted 22 Mar 2006 2:23 pm
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Not to get take this further off course I do want to mention a charming fable that's excellent for organization team-building exercises. It's called The Lemming Dilemma. One little Lemming chose NOT to jump because he had higher aspirations. A good tale for kids, too!
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Charles Davidson
From:
Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 22 Mar 2006 2:43 pm
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| Your right Marlin,A limmin will mindlessly follow the crowd,the same as conforming to a trend,To conform means being similar,identical to or in harmony with,not having any individuality,or originality at all.[With just a FEW exceptions] these so-called country artists today[I use the term artists with reservation] all sound like clones.If you are channel surfing,you don't know if you are watching GAC[Great American Crap]CMT,BET,or MTV. It's all about the money,to hell with real music. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 22 Mar 2006 2:46 pm
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Ok then..let me see where I may fit in..
I could be a fuzzy little creature who jumps off the cliff with the rest of my pals..
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I could be narrow minded and jst cave in and play the dang song..
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as the latest entry suggests..( thank you Donna)
I can maintain my fuzzy creature status and NOT go with the crowd and jump off the cliff..step out of the box and do my own thing regardless of the NORM..
ok thats the one I choose...
and all this because I play the dumb donka donk song..[This message was edited by Tony Prior on 22 March 2006 at 02:50 PM.] |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 22 Mar 2006 3:29 pm
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| Tony, doesn't playing the donka-donk song put you in the "fuzzy little creature who jumps off the cliff with the rest of my pals" category? [This message was edited by Barry Blackwood on 22 March 2006 at 03:31 PM.] |
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Joe Miraglia
From:
Jamestown N.Y.
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Posted 22 Mar 2006 4:51 pm
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| Stand up if you are a Limmin! Did you jump on the Hag,Buck, The Big E. Band wagon? I can name so many acts, stars ,singers and steel players we all love, and would run after. Just because you don't like todays music , that makes you not a Limmin? As for as todays songs all sounding the same yes some do ,but they did years ago. You heard One Kitty Wells song you heard them all. Back 50 years people would tell me ,you don,t know what real music is you play that twang thing and that hillbilly junk. Today they tell me,I love that thing you're playing and I like Country music. In just a few years everyone will love country music Joe PS Wow can I spell Tonight [This message was edited by Joe Miraglia on 22 March 2006 at 07:46 PM.] |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 22 Mar 2006 6:03 pm
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| Um ....OK Joe ... |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 22 Mar 2006 7:09 pm
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I guess it pretty much doesn't matter if I'm a LEMMEN..I never even heard of that term before this thread anyway..
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I probably will play both Donka Donk and Save a Horse next week again..
So I guess in the scheme of things I must have climbed back up the cliff..only to jump off once again next week ! |
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Charles Davidson
From:
Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 22 Mar 2006 7:55 pm
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| Amazing how few know what a limmin is,since the music industry today is saturated with them. |
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Charles Davidson
From:
Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 22 Mar 2006 10:22 pm
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| [If you heard one Kitty Wells song,you heard them all]That may be true,but she was an original as was Lorreta,Jean Shepard,Hank Snow,Earnest,Roy,Marty,Lefty,Hank Sr.,Webb,Little Jimmy,Eddy Arnold,Faron Young,George Morgan,Johnnie and Jack,Porter,Carl Smith,the list could go on and on.Each of these REAL ARTIST had their own definite instantly recognizable style.Not today!!!!Just the same old *^%# over,over and over.No musical value combined with moronic lyrics makes up todays Mu-sick. |
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Charles Davidson
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Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2006 8:24 am
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| P.S.,Not only did all the great vocalist of the past have their own unique style,so did the pickers,Jerry Byrd,Don Helms,Billy Robinson,Jimmy Day,Leon McAuliffe,Grady Martin,Merle Travis,Hank Garland Curly,Noel Boggs,Chet,Bob White,Little Roy Wiggins,and the Big E that every one to this day is still trying to emulate.You see many posts on here asking the question,who is the steel player on such and such song? WHY? Because they are trying to copy the Big E[there are many great pickers out there that are capable of developing their own style,but don't.]That's the difference in todays music and yesterdays,Today there is absolutely no originality,or style. |
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Marlin Smoot
From:
Kansas
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Posted 23 Mar 2006 9:19 am
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I'd like to offer a view point and pose a question:
Perhaps the reason why the early musicians had a "style" is because a lot of that musicial ground had not been covered. Almost everything they played was actually new for the aera. You're talking about players from the 40's; 50's and later. Maybe what's left is using a style that's already been covered because that's all that's left to discover.
Perhaps most of the melodys have already been written. There are only so many notes on the staff and only so many ways to put them together. Maybe we've reached the point where there are no great melodys left? Music from the 40's; 50's and even the 60's had great melodys, today...not so much or it sounds like something already recorded.
Sure, there will be a few musicians or writters who will come up with someting new, but the days where there were a "lot of players and writters" coming up with something new and great may be a thing of the past.
My question is; with reguard to country music/popular music and steel players...have we reached or nearing the saturation point in written music and players of special innovative ability?
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John Ummel
From:
Arlington, WA.
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Posted 23 Mar 2006 9:42 am
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have we reached or nearing the saturation point in written music and players of special innovative ability?
Absolutely NOT!
And anyone who thinks there is no originality in music today...has slammed shut his/her own doors of perception...for some reason. (BTW, I respect everyone's opinions here, so there's mine)
"Save Time, See It My Way!!" |
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