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Topic: The future of the steel guitar |
Jeff Au Hoy
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 12:43 pm |
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| I rather like the term "Hawaiian Steel Guitar" sounds more interesting and exotic. |
Jessie, looks like you gleaned more from the older generation than just musical ideas. 
I like the idea of not caring what we call the instrument, so long as we continue playing it.
But I can totally sympathize with Ray when he laments about the music being played today by many people my age. It's scary stuff out there.
I personally will not accept the majority of Rock N Roll as part of my musical lineage. No way no how. Yes, that's narrow-minded, but I think it's a trend amongst many people of my age as well. We're tired of the reckless, drugged up, long-haired culture. Music once had a certain class about it.
And I am only a half-wit. I recently witnessed an 18 yearold play the vibes like Lionel Hampton, to the T. I have friends who once listened to rap and reggae in high school, and are now going bonkers over the John Pizzarelli Trio. The numbers are growing.
I think the 1970's and 80's left a lot of people hungering. But presently I'm not too worried... the good stuff will come back to us.
Sorry to get religious about it... (kind of getting hypocritical in that respect)... but just my feelings. |
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Orville Johnson
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Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 2:05 pm
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"... that's narrow-minded, but I think it's a trend amongst many people of my age as well. We're tired of the reckless, drugged up, long-hair culture."
i don't know your age, jeff. i'm 51, been playing professionally for 35 years, still have long hair ( i like it that way and so does my wife and it has absolutely zero to do with any kind of "culture") and if narrow-mindedness is any kind of trend i want no part of it.
narrow-mindedness has never done one thing for the advancement of any kind of art, culture, knowledge or anything else. in fact, i think keeping your mind narrow ultimately has the same effect that narrowing and hardening of the arteries has on you. it kills you.
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Travis Bernhardt
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Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 2:27 pm
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Ditto what Jack just said. 
-Travis |
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Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 2:47 pm
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My original point: When one sees a "tri-angle"......and asks, "what is that?" A typical answer might be "That's a triangle".
When one sees a big, round bass drum and asks, a typical answer is "That's a drum".
When a new comer to steel guitar sees/hears one on TV, a radio DJ-type show,
at a concert or where ever and asks what it is, that person might get a dozen different names.......of what it's called.
I just felt it didn't really lend to the lasting impression of what it really is when the names range from inaccurate personal names to industry names to manufacturers names to fad names............
Sorry folks that I even brought up the idea. I'm NOT AT ALL overly concerned what it is called. Personally, I could care less. I know where it came from and what its been called for many years. I just felt a SIMPLE, easy to understand, basic name without all of the adjectives in front of it, might help sell the concept of wanting to play or hear a steel guitar; or, a pedal steel. Someone else on this forum brought up the "concern" that steel guitar might be dying. Ahmen. |
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Rick Aiello
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Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 3:51 pm
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| reckless, drugged up, long-haired culture. |
Not that I would recommend it for everyone ... but it always worked for me ...
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Jeff Au Hoy
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Honolulu, Hawai'i
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 4:03 pm
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I'm 23.
Sorry Orville, the long hair comment was tongue-in-cheek. I didn't mean to offend you. Some of my best friends have long hair. I love them dearly. There are skinheads that do drugs.
Ray, my bad for misinterpreting the theme of this thread. Maybe we should rename the thread "The Future of the Name of Our Instrument". |
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Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 5:43 pm
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Whatever you say there, Jeff. I think it's time for the youth of this musical community take charge and run things for awhile. Great idea!
I still haven't rec'd your address. I guess that means you don't want to receive the CD I prepared for you? You more or less inferred that you'd like a copy. Perhaps I misread your comments. |
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Ron Whitfield
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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 5:58 pm
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Sheesh, compared to the incredibly uptight/looser society we exist in today, I seriously miss the "reckless, drugged up, long haired", musically inspired, no holds barred, nitro/alcohol powered, artistically creative(Roth, Von Dutch), still room to surf and get away from everybody, good/cheap guitars, most hero's still alive, much less oppressive, totally rockin', and fun(minus stupid Nixon/Nam) times.
At least I can still get away with renaming my steel a tubamaphone! |
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Jesse Pearson
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San Diego , CA
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 6:05 pm
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| Jeff, you spell my name like a girl one more time and I swear ta God, when I come over to Hawaii at the end of the summer I'm gonna look you up. This is why Hawaiian musicians throw stuff at you in public. I think what the problem is, you've never been in the service or prison and you really don't get it when it comes to other men. |
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Ron Whitfield
From:
Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 6:48 pm
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| Jesse, I know where he lives! |
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Jeff Au Hoy
From:
Honolulu, Hawai'i
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 11:48 pm
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Holy moley Jesse, I honestly did not do that on purpose. I've got three high school friends (guys) who go by "Jessie" so it's just never phased me...spellings have always been arbitrary conventions used to represent sounds. But thanks for bringing it to my attention... I will not make the same mistake again. I apologize for stepping on your machismo.
Ray, I'm still haven't gotten any email from you. (It's eatmorepoi@aol.com just to make sure.)
Yes, Ron does know where I live... that's why I've been posting from my bunker deep the in the Ko'olaus. Okay, now I've said too much. |
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Jesse Pearson
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San Diego , CA
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Posted 19 Feb 2004 8:03 am
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| Jeff, you only started doing it since I posted awhile back that "ie" is the girl spelling and I don't dig it. You say stuff to get a rise out of people, your quite aware what's going on. If we can't be civil to each other we should stay outta each other's way here on the forum. I gotta tell ya, the young service guys I meet downtown love the 60' 70' rock and I play it for em. The punk movement was a rebellion to the flower child/long haired thing. There are alot of good musicians who have done drugs because of depression. It's self destructive as we all know if done too much, but sometimes it helps to block out the emotional distractions that try and draw your attention away from playing music. Thanks for apologizing and let's be cool with each other, I don't like getting mad at you. |
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Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 19 Feb 2004 10:03 am
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Hey Ron Whitfield! Since you know the kids address and the precise location of his bunker, why not start selling printed maps to all of the incoming tourists and misc. musicians like they do in Hollywood and Nashville? You might be surprised. And, that was quite a blurb you put in your post.
I didn't realize you had in yuh! |
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Brad Bechtel
From:
San Francisco, CA
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Posted 19 Feb 2004 4:54 pm
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Sorry, folks. This has nothing to do with the future of steel guitar.
This thread has been closed.
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