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Topic: C#-9th vs E13th (Barney Isaacs) |
Jeff Strouse
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Jacksonville, Florida, USA
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Posted 17 Feb 2004 8:41 pm |
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Anyone have any thoughts on these two tunings?
C#-9th.............E13th (Barney Isaacs)
E..........................E
C#.........................C#
G#.........................G#
F#.........................F#
E..........................D
D..........................B
B..........................G#
E...........................E
I've always liked the C#-9th tuning, and I now notice that the Barney Isaacs E13th is very similar except for a note or two.
Theory is kind of like greek to me, so I'm wondering what the advantages/disadvantages are of these two inversions.
If I had 9 strings, I'd be "set" with:
E
C#
G#
F#
E
D
B
G#
E
But with 8 strings, it looks like a decision has to be made whether or not to have the "E" in the middle, or the low G#.
Any thoughts?
[This message was edited by several times by Jeff Strouse on 17 February 2004 at 08:49 PM to try and get those tunings to line up side by side...I give up!]
[This message was edited by Jeff Strouse on 17 February 2004 at 08:51 PM...aaaagh...i still can't get those dots to line up right]
[This message was edited by Jeff Strouse on 17 February 2004 at 08:54 PM.] [This message was edited by Jeff Strouse on 17 February 2004 at 08:55 PM.] |
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Travis Bernhardt
From:
Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 17 Feb 2004 11:22 pm
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No idea about the tunings, but to get the dots to line up you could add the "tab" tags before and after your chart. Click the "*UBB Code is ON" link in the message writing window for instructions.
-Travis |
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Maurie Junod
From:
Oak Forest, Illinois, USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 9:13 am
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For what it's worth.....if you drop
the bottom "E" on your nine string tuning
you have what JB lists within his course
as the C#m9th tuning.
I will fool around with that Barney Isaacs
tuning a bit out of curiosity. What resource
did you use to obtain that tuning labeled E13 ?
Maurie |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 9:39 am
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The two tunings you listed are both E13th tunings. The only difference is in the "spelling" of the chord. I prefer the root note (E) in the middle; like on our 8th string on pedal steels (E9th tuning).
In fact when pedal steels were evolving, that is precisely what Jimmy Day did. He added the E note in the middle of the right hand tuning and sacrificed the lower 3rd (G#). Thank heavens he did. (Note: pedals give us the C# since it was dropped from the open tuning).
If Jerry Byrd called the left hand tuning that is posted above C#min9th, I disagree with him. In order for that to be true, there would HAVE to be a D# string in there. And there isn't. And if there was, the F# string would have made it more correct to say C#min11th.
carl |
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Maurie Junod
From:
Oak Forest, Illinois, USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 1:12 pm
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I agree Carl, It must have been a typo on
the heading. Should of been C#m-9.
Maurie |
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Maurie Junod
From:
Oak Forest, Illinois, USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 1:16 pm
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Jeff,
I found a verification of that Barney Isaacs
E13th tuning on John Ely's website. You are
right. I'm going to try that out.
Thanks....Maurie |
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Jeff Strouse
From:
Jacksonville, Florida, USA
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Posted 18 Feb 2004 2:14 pm
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Woops..guess I should have put the "m" in there for C# minor 9th. I've always just used the dash "-" to indicate minor. But if musically that means something else, I should probably correct the bad habit now.
I like having the E, C#, and G right there on the first three strings. It also makes for a cleaner sounding forward slant using all three strings, rahter than using the 2nd, 3rd, and 5th strings of C6th (E on top)....especially if the string spacing is
more narrow.
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