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Topic: Was it just me or did the Stones sound mix |
Bill McCloskey
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Posted 5 Feb 2006 10:07 pm |
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suck.
Man, it really sounded bad through my surround sound system. They also played poorly. Will someone stop Ron Wood from playing slide in the future? |
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Herman Visser
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Rohnert Park, California, USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2006 10:30 pm
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Bill.... I am a big fan of the Stones. #0 yrs ago. But now... Your right!!! (SUCK)
Played Poorly (Understatment)!!!!
Sure hope they dont get paid for that show.
IT SUCKED
my 2 cents
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Loni Specter
From:
West Hills, CA, USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2006 11:43 pm
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| Next year they should book "Spanal Tap" and "Devine" or how about some MONSTER TRUCKS! |
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 12:52 am
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I don't think the Stones have ever been a really great live band, in either the sense of consistency, or in the pursuit of magic and alchemy. Maybe they could write more sensitively about their feelings and hire a better singer?  Mystique, expectations, literally smoke and mirrors - your medium-grade bar bands can play their hits better than they can. I saw them in '72 and '75 and their sound was all boomy and uneven then, just like it (obviously) still is.
I absolutely can't underestimate Richards and Jaggers contribution to my adolescence, they're the best car-radio band in history, but yesterday when Wood and Richards were "jamming" on "Satisfaction" is was like they were each waiting for the other one to do something, and neither did. I believe that's referred to as "playing in the pocket", but I wish at least one of them had taken it out of their pocket and waved it around some.
It is painful to hear slide like that, when rock and roll slide can be so very fine. Maybe Ron Wood (and Joe Perry, etc. etc.) never heard of the "sweet spot", or steamrolled over it in search of the "G-spot" or something. God bless alcoholism, it sure teaches you not to sweat the small stuff.... Wood did have an awfully pretty slide guitar though, some kind of custom three-pickup Guild maybe? I guess I could put "Exile on Main Street" into the slot, crank it up and moon about the lost, good, old, lost days, but I've been on a Tchaikovsky binge lately - life is too short for mooning, at least mine feels that way. |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 1:48 am
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David, I think you got it about dead-on!  Yup, sound-wise, the average "bar-band" would eat 'em for lunch. Even the best recordings of the 'Stones leave something to be desired, IMHO, so it's not all just about their live mix, either. |
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Alvin Blaine
From:
Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 2:06 am
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| I think they just wanted to make sure that we knew they were playing live, because NOBODY would ever pre-record tracks that sounded that bad. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 3:10 am
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The mix was bad - or at least the sound that TV got was bad. But, you can't blame that on the band - we all know that too well, we are victums of the sound person in miked situations.
Many "bar bands" may be able to do their songs better than they did last night, but I don't know of a bar band that has made or is still making the $$$ they are. |
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Geoff Brown
From:
Nashvegas
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 3:24 am
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| Yup, sound-wise, the average "bar-band" would eat 'em for lunch. |
So...what does that mean, exactly? Would the "average bar band", have better gear, or a better soundman...or are you saying that the musicians would be better?
David, Ronnie's guitar was made by Tony Zemaitis. Pretty famous luthier, some of his guitars are nice looking. http://www.zemaitis.net/
Never warmed up much to Ronnie's slide work. Now Mick Taylor...different story entirely [This message was edited by Geoff Brown on 06 February 2006 at 03:32 AM.] |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 3:56 am
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I think Keith was more in shock cuz' he knew he was getting paid about $100,000/song to just stand there.....probably more..
then he got to thinking about the royalities for every TV station and radio station playing his 3 songs all at the same time across the world...
he was overwhelmed ..
Satisfaction is no longer a song..it's the largest 401k Retirement plan on the Planet !
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Steve Hinson
From:
Hendersonville Tn USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 4:13 am
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I thought they sounded EXACTLY like the Rolling Stones...that's the first time I remember an act not playing to tracks during the SB halftime show...I thought it was great!
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Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 5:23 am
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Let's be kind, it was a rough gig. Stevie Wonder looking around for a monitor, resisting the temptation to stick a finger in his ear; wind blowing, crowd yelling.
It doesn't get any worse than that, and yet, it's the big time! |
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 5:33 am
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Mick's microphone wasn't even on for the first couple of words to the "Start me Up". I noticed he also skipped some lyrics at the end of that tune that some could call offensive. I think the production was OK, but not exactly a great "TV" event.
The Stones' HBO special a couple of summers a ago was outstanding. |
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David Doggett
From:
Bawl'mer, MD (formerly of MS, Nawluns, Gnashville, Knocksville, Lost Angeles, Bahsten. and Philly)
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 5:44 am
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They were worse than when I heard their concert live a couple months ago. Keef didn't get much going, and Ron's slide solo was painful. Can't really blame that on the sound system. Probably mainly lack of being warmed up. When you're their age that probably matters a lot. The sound system wasn't great. Even if it was the Super Bowl, it was still a hurriedly setup football game halftime show. How good can that be...um, considering how much the sound company got paid, maybe better? But who knows, it could have been the network's fault.
Say what you want about the Stones. When I saw them at their concert, they played their hearts out all night long, and mostly fast numbers. By luck I ended up with comp seats down front, and you could tell they really enjoyed themselves and put out. It was the first time I ever saw them live. People who had seen them in years past said this was their best show ever. Okay, they've always been a little sloppy, and have mostly played simple grooves and hooks. It's all part of their trademark raunchy sound. They have chosen to stick with it til the end, and not split up and wander off into questionable solo stuff or other groups. For the most part they've managed to enjoy it and not get bored with it. I respect that. I also respect that their new stuff is closer to their blues roots than ever. They are not the slickest, but they are the best rock'n'roll band of all time. But couldn't they have found an Amurcun group for the Super Bowl? |
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 6:01 am
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In retrospect it does seem sort of odd that the World's Richest Rock and Roll Band, and a major network broadcasting The Television Event of the Year to Over One Billion People, couldn't hire even a half-assed soundman, install enough monitors, or run even a "virtual" pregame soundcheck of some sort. Maybe it's one of those "economy of scale" thingamambobs - once you're so rich and so famous and so cool, you really have no reason whatsoever to give a flying hoot about what people say anymore. Like, Mick really cares what I think?  "Mix a pinch of digitalis and two pinches of Viagra into the cocaine bowl, Jeeves" - those suckers'll probably outlive us all....  |
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Chris Schlotzhauer
From:
Colleyville, Tx. USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 6:19 am
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| I thought it was great. They (the sound crew) took a while to get it dialed in. |
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Webb Kline
From:
Orangeville, PA
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 6:26 am
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You gotta give Mick credit. He's kept himself a lot better preserved than most of us. He had to really be in shape to put on a show like that.
What got me is that I realized the Chuck Leavell has been playing keys with the Stones for a lot longer than he played with the Allman Bros. Man, I'm gettin' old. Sadly, in all these years, I've never heard him have a chance to actually play what he is capable of with the Stones. I've always like his work with the Allmans. Greg never could hold a candle to him and I've never appreciated the Allmans as much since Chuck left.
I'm sure he smiles all the way to the bank though.  |
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Mark Vinbury
From:
N. Kingstown, Rhode Island, USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 7:01 am
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Hackin' at Halftime is what I called it , but,still enjoyed it in spite of the lousey sound.Looked to me like they were just sticking to the basics and trying to fill up the stage.Wish I had Mick's energy and I'm only 57.
Compared to some other over 60 guys who come teetering out on stage these guys rocked.[This message was edited by Mark Vinbury on 06 February 2006 at 01:20 PM.] |
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Charlie McDonald
From:
out of the blue
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 7:11 am
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| But couldn't they have found an Amurcun group for the Super Bowl? |
Outsourcing. |
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Rex Wiseman
From:
Cottontown, TN
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 7:15 am
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| Steve, I agree with you. When you see the Stones - "It is what it is". Now don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Ray Price play the Super Bowl!! Can we get somebody on that for next year?? I'm glad they didn't use tracks like so many do. Heck, I'll be happy if I can still pick up a guitar when I'm their age!! |
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 8:17 am
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| ABC censored the audio. It's written up in today's MSNBC website. |
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kyle reid
From:
Butte,Mt.usa
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 8:40 am
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| What a waste of money when they had all the seats sold already? |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 8:52 am
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| I'd love to see Ray Price play the Super Bowl!! Can we get somebody on that for next year?? |
Um, yeah... we'll get right on that... |
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Mark Lind-Hanson
From:
Menlo Park, California, USA
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 8:54 am
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It would have been nice if the guitars had been better balanced.Wood's wireless seemed to activate a little too late & much too loudly to be as smooth as he wanted to look.
Richards looked bored, and -as if there was maybe a stage-extra playing his lines? Jagger has lost none of hs touch nor trademarked moves, which look pretty good for a man of his age, but, sadly, we can't say the same for his looks. But then, the Stones were never really known as a "cute" band, were they? They kept up the "old buddies" farce pretty well, though. I mean, if all you need to do is show up to earn a cool half a mil, then, who Couldn't fake it for a half hour or so? I felt burned, by only three songs, however, when they probably could have squeezed in at LEAST one more. |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 8:54 am
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| What a waste of money when they had all the seats sold already? |
The entertainment is not to fill seats. It is to increase the TV audience to, in turn, drive up the per-second cost of the advertising. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 6 Feb 2006 9:14 am
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and lets not forget the value of Internet websites the next day so we can all yap about it..
one way or another..
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