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Topic: HELP NEEDED! Pleeaaaaase. |
Ray Montee
From: Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 26 Mar 2005 5:38 pm
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Can anyone establish for me.........whether the following three songs are copywrited and/or who the writer/publisher might have been?
The songs are:
"Black & White Rag"
"Anytime, Anyday"
"Chickadee"
Your help will be gratefully appreciated.
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 26 Mar 2005 6:18 pm
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Ray, just about everything written in the past 100 or so years is copyrighted. Technically, anything written before 1922 is PD, but there may be copyrights in force on newer arrangements (versions) of older songs. Here's what I could find on the ones you asked about...
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"Anytime, Anyday, Anywhere". Copyright(1920) Max Kortlander. |
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BLACK AND WHITE RAG. According to Rudi Blesh and Harriet Janis, They All Played Ragtime, this rag was written in 1908 by George Botsford (1874-1949). Raised in Iowa, Botsford eventually went to Tin Pan Alley. BLACK AND WHITE RAG was his first and biggest syncopated hit and, Iike other rags, was widely circulated among ragtime players and country fiddlers alike. |
Lotta Chickadee stuff out there. Here's one, Chickadee Song Copyright 1993, Carl A. Strang... quote:
There are things you can learn from watching us birds.
You can learn by imitation, you don't need words.
You can have fun without being rude:
Just keep a chickadee attitude.
[This message was edited by Donny Hinson on 26 March 2005 at 06:25 PM.] [This message was edited by Donny Hinson on 26 March 2005 at 06:33 PM.] [This message was edited by Donny Hinson on 26 March 2005 at 07:18 PM.] |
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Rick Aiello
From: Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 26 Mar 2005 6:38 pm
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Anytime, Anyday, Anywhere ... Ned Washington, Victor Young, Lee Wiley, 1933
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Aiello's House of Gauss
My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 26 Mar 2005 7:09 pm
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Rick, while I'll have to investigate to be sure, I believe the 1933 Washing/Young/Wiley version is a rewrite. I found this... quote: In the case of the sole Kortlander recording on Pathe (which is a duet with Victor Arden) I've always felt reasonably comfortable that this is in fact an acoustic record of these gentlemen playing live duet piano. One of the reasons is that Kortlander's 1920 pop song "Anytime Anyday Anywhere" is featured on one of the record
sides.
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Lee Wiley wrote her own lyrics to Anytime, Any Day, Anywhere, and it became a hit recorded by another group in the 1950s. She was one of the giants of jazz singing, influencing both jazz singers like Peggy Lee and cabaret singers like Mabel Mercer. |
Or maybe...we're talking two different songs?
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Rick Aiello
From: Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 26 Mar 2005 8:35 pm
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Sorry ... it seemed Ray was looking for a downloading licence or something ...
So I searched Harry Fox Agency ...
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Aiello's House of Gauss
My wife and I don't think alike. She donates money to the homeless and I donate money to the topless! ... R. Dangerfield
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chas smith R.I.P.
From: Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 27 Mar 2005 12:21 pm
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I have a friend who researches source music for feature films. He was just on one, set in the '30s, where they wanted to use some source materieal, from an obscure jazz recording. Sony owned the publishing. They wanted $70,000 to license it.
Ever wonder why you never hear anybody singing "Happy Birthday" on tv or in the movies?[This message was edited by chas smith on 27 March 2005 at 12:22 PM.] |
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