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Topic: Opinions: Fender Standard 5 String Jazz Bass |
Bobby Lee
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Cloverdale, California, USA
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Chris Forbes
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Beltsville, MD, USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 12:19 pm |
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| b0b, my brother has one and we frequently trade instruments for weeks at a time. So I've played this very same model on numerous gigs. I think it plays smooth, sounds great, and as always with Fender, you get a lot of bang for your buck. |
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Ben Slaughter
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Madera, California
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Jon Light
From:
Saugerties, NY
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 2:05 pm
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Just remember the $100 fine for each string over the standard 4.
credit: This is a forum post in the humor section from 1998 by John Macy that I saved. I tried to make a link to it but it doesn't turn up in a forum search--probably not archived.
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> > BASS PLAYER OFFENSES
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> >NAME OF OFFENDER__________________________
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> >INFRACTION DATE___________
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> >MUSICAL OFFENSES FINE
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> >[ ] Playing loudly during warm up $10
> >[ ] Sound-checking amp with funk slapping $25
> >[ ] Loud cursing after mistake $10
> >[ ] Playing high and fast after mistake $20
> >[ ] Practicing 2-handed tapping between tunes $20
> >[ ] Asking for "E" tuning note $25
> >[ ] Playing E anyway when horns tune to Bb $50
> >[ ] Playing written-out walking line $50
> >[ ] Failure to play written walking line $75
> >[ ] Writing note names over ledger-line notes $50
> >[ ] Writing beat numbers under dotted figures $50
> >[ ] Playing eighth notes $5 each
> >[ ] Playing sixteenth notes $10 each
> >[ ] Playing above 1st octave immediate dismissal
> >[ ] Dragging fast tempo $75
> >[ ] Dragging ballad tempo $100
> >[ ] Blacking out during ballad $200
> >[ ] Ignoring drummer's tempo $100
> >[ ] Following drummer's tempo $250
> >[ ] Asking to borrow Real Book for All Of Me $1000
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> >UPRIGHT PLAYERS
> >[ ] Showing up before first downbeat $25
> >[ ] Playing audibly $25
> >[ ] Faking changes $25
> >[ ] Slapping $150
> >[ ] Missing tutti lick, then mentioning
> > vintage of bass $25
> >[ ] Excessive sweating $25
> >[ ] Pedal point double-stops during horn solo 50
> >[ ] Asking leader for a solo $30
> >[ ] Accepting solo when offered $50
> >[ ] Taking second chorus $100
> >[ ] Playing solo arco $400
> >[ ] Pretending to check tuning after
> > playing out of tune $100
> >[ ] Playing "A Train" ending on every tune $200
> >[ ] Playing extended "A Train" ending
> > on every tune $500
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> >ELECTRIC PLAYERS
> >[ ] Checking hair between tunes $15
> >[ ] Experimenting with odd meters $25
> >[ ] Missing root at end of blistering fill $25
> >[ ] Playing with a pick $50
> >[ ] Tuning during ballad $30
> >[ ] Playing Jaco groove on samba $75
> >[ ] Playing Jaco samba groove on ballad $150
> >[ ] Attempting last word on final chord $50
> >[ ] Achieving last word on final chord $100
> >[ ] Long gliss down to final note $200
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> >EQUIPMENT VIOLATIONS - ELECTRIC
> >[ ] Forgetting strap $10
> >[ ] Changing strings after every set $15
> >[ ] Using electric tuner $15
> >[ ] Setting up mic "just in case" $75
> >[ ] Forgetting to turn amp on $40
> >[ ] Bringing amp larger than 1 person can
> > carry in 1 trip $50
> >[ ] Asking horn player for help moving amp $25
> >[ ] Bringing custom-made bass $100 per string above 4
> >[ ] Bringing more than 1 bass $100 per extra bass
> >[ ] Skull decals on bass $150
> >[ ] Bringing fretless bass $500
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> >CRIMINAL BAD TASTE
> >[ ] Telling bone player about all the
> > gigs you get $10
> >[ ] Asking bone player about their day gig $10
> >[ ] Sitting behind drums on break $10
> >[ ] Quoting "Birdland" $25
> >[ ] Practicing scales during break $25
> >[ ] Practicing scales during drum solo $50
> >[ ] Practicing $150
> >[ ] Beginning a sentence with "When I was
> > a guitar player..." $50
> >[ ] Casually mentioning to Musical Director of cheap
> > theater that you are "into sequencing" $100
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> >BASIC STUPIDITY
> >[ ] Wearing old Buddy Rich tour shirt $10
> >[ ] Wearing new Whitesnake tour shirt $20
> >[ ] Asking when the rock set starts $20
> >[ ] Continually asking "where are we?" $25
> >[ ] Continually shouting "Yeah!" $25
> >[ ] Asking bone player where "1" is $50
> >[ ] Taking cellphone call during 4's $100
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> > TOTAL ________ |
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HowardR
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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 5:30 pm
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| 34" or 35" scale? |
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2005 5:32 pm
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I prefer double scale when I can get it. 
Seriously, I didn't know it was available with different scale lengths. I prefer shorter scale - I grew up playing a Fender Mustang bass. |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 4 Jan 2005 1:33 am
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I played it and the jazz VI too. exactly the same sound and feel as the 4 older Fender Jazz 4'as I have owned.
Just more strings.
I guess I get a LOT of fines from the above list.
I can't deal with less than 6 strtings on the electric, and want a low cd extention on the E string of the upright. |
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Kirk Weaver
From:
Clinton, Utah, USA
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Posted 4 Jan 2005 9:41 pm
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Being brand new a PSG, I have felt guilty for all of the priceless information I have received with nothing to contribute in return. Finally, an area that I have some experience.
The Fender Mustang was a short scale bass of about 30in. Quite a bit shorted than the standard 34in. but great fun to play. You will probably not find a 5 string under 34in. due to the nature of the floppy B string. A lot of todays basses are 35in. and longer to compensate for the B string problem. Personally, the 34 and 35 feel the same to me but some players will tell you otherwise.
The Standard Jazz V you are interested in is a 34in. scale. Fender Standard in made in Mexico and some players feel they have quality control issues. There is great debate in the bass forums with the Standard vs. USA Fenders. I have a Standard Jazz (4 string) that plays and feels just great. But I had to pass on a few lemons before I found it. The good ones are there, but you have to find them.(funny thing is I have found the same probems with the USA models)
One other issue may be the pickup. I believe the Mustang used the same split humbucker as the Precision. That may be the old fender sound you are looking for. While I really enjoyed the growl of the Jazz pickups, the noise from their single coil design got to be too much of a problem for me. I ended up replacing them with stacked humbuckers.
I would have to second Ben's post about his G&L. They do play like a dream and an excellent value. Only problem is the L-2500 may be out of your price range. You may want to look into the G&L Tribute L-2500. At $599, it is a great deal. My son has one and once in a while, he lets me take it for the evening. (when I can pry it from his hands)
Another one I would recommend is a Lakland (pronounce Lake-land). This is my current 5 string flavor of the month. They make several Fender copies but can alway be identified by their oval shaped bridge. Their standard models can be priced as high as $3500 but they have a Skyline Series that starts at $699. Another great bang for the buck.
Good luck in you quest (hope I wasn't too long winded)
Kirk |
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Tom Gorr
From:
Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 4 Jan 2005 10:04 pm
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Ben - you have my fav color in the G&L line. Let me know if you ever want to sell or trade!
b0b
I have a G&L Tribute L-2000 (natural clear w/rosewood fretboard). Paid C$525 for it at a music store blowout.
Growlly and articulate after you 'dial it in' with the truss rod (see "Tuning the neck" thread).
Go try a $1500 USA model that's setup to perfection, then buy the Korean one (Tribute) and have it professionally set to sound like the USA model. You may never hear the difference (except for the crackling pots; replaceable).
Bass forums suggest that the G&L has a tone pallette that covers most of the vintage Fenders. The switch is actually not a coil tap, but runs the pickups in series or parallel, from what I've read.
Good luck![This message was edited by Tom Gorr on 04 January 2005 at 10:06 PM.] |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 5 Jan 2005 2:22 am
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There are some short scale 5 strings,
and you need not only use a low B.
A high B or C string on a short scale is very good for soloing anc riffs while comping. I use it as much or more than the low B on my 6 string. |
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Ben Slaughter
From:
Madera, California
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Posted 5 Jan 2005 10:01 am
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Tom, you would be jealous since I have a matching ASAT and Legacy. Also have an Ovation collector's series (my first guitar) that matches and my Carter is blue.
Blue guitars sound better.[This message was edited by Ben Slaughter on 05 January 2005 at 10:01 AM.] [This message was edited by Ben Slaughter on 05 January 2005 at 10:02 AM.] |
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Tom Gorr
From:
Three Hills, Alberta
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Posted 5 Jan 2005 11:49 am
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b0b - the blue we are talking about is 'sunburst' - called "blueburst" ... breathtaking.
Ben - yes extremely jealous...keep an eye open for a nicely grained blueburst G&L S-500 Tribute / maple fretboard. I'll be down in California in a few months ! |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 5 Jan 2005 3:22 pm
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John L 's (& John M)post & thread should be in the FAQ sektion being developed in "Forum Feedback" 
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Ben Slaughter
From:
Madera, California
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Kirk Weaver
From:
Clinton, Utah, USA
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Posted 7 Jan 2005 6:34 am
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| Yes...I would also like to know where to find a good short scale 5 string (comparable to the Jazz V). |
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Michael Barone
From:
Downingtown, Pennsylvania
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Posted 7 Jan 2005 6:09 pm
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I don't know if they are still in production, but Peavey has a 34" scale 5-string and 6-string bass.
A few years ago I bought a Peavey Fury 6-string bass, 34" scale. (I was debating between this and a Spector, didn't want to spend a lot). The "B" string probably doesn't have the definitive "growl" that is typical of a 35" scale, but it works for me, just doing home recording. IMHO, this guitar does not have anything close to the "Fender Tone", it has a darker sound, didn't bother me though. Active tone circuit has its own character. The guitar is quite solid though, stays in tune for months.
These are foreign made, the playability is not up to US made guitars, but at least Peavey doesn't have the poor quality electronics issues that foreign Fenders have, as previously stated.
As another relatively new member benefiting from this great forum, I just wanted to try to help by adding my comments here.
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Mike Barone
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Bobby Lee
From:
Cloverdale, California, USA
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Posted 7 Jan 2005 7:59 pm
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Thanks for the comments, Mike.
I'm not all that fond of active instruments. A bass is something I play 2 or 3 times a year. I don't like to have to mess with a battery when I pick it up. |
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David L. Donald
From:
Koh Samui Island, Thailand
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Posted 10 Jan 2005 10:04 am
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| Well if it wasn't left plugged in it will likely work fine. |
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