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Topic: Opry Dress Code |
Jason Odd
From:
Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 16 Nov 2004 4:54 am |
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Charles French, you wrote: "Change is usually not for the better. I prefer the 50's & 60's. No serial killer's or child molesters, at least not in my neck of the woods."
No, probably nto that you noticed. One of Australia's first real serial killers was an American serviceman who went on a spree while in Australia, during the 1940s and WWII.
Things people forget about the 1950s, the Korean War, the McCarthy hearings, the Cold War, Segregation and that Elvis was originally marketed as country as no-one really knew what else to call that rocked up hillbilly stuff.
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Fred Jack
From:
Bastrop, Texas 78602
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Posted 16 Nov 2004 7:37 am
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Theresa, Do I detect a note of sarcasm?
Regards, Fred |
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Jeff Lampert
From:
queens, new york city
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Posted 16 Nov 2004 9:50 am
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Country music is just following along in our culture. Look at video games now compared to 30 years ago. Reality TV. Rap compared to soul music of the 60's. The fact is that you may not like it, but it is what sells. Just imagine - in 20 years we're going to be immersed in a culture that will fondly look back to this era.
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Leslie Ehrlich
From:
Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 16 Nov 2004 11:03 am
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| Grumble grumble grumble ... no steel or fiddle ... grumble grumble ... no solos ... grumble grumble grumble ... don't sound like Ray or Connie ... grumble grumble ... generation gap ... grumble grumble grumble ... more interested in making money than making music ... grumble grumble ... poorly dressed ... grumble grumble ... they act like idiots onstage ... grumble grumble ... what a bunch of noise ... grumble grumble grumble ... whatever happened to good old fashioned country music ... grumble grumble grumble ... |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 16 Nov 2004 5:16 pm
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Herb, my man, 'ya gotta point, there!
John...there's a distinct difference between funny clothes ("comic" outfits or rural garb), and plain ol' "sloppy dressing".
(Those folks on "Hee-Haw" weren't fashion mavens, but they would never be mistaken for "street people".)  [This message was edited by Donny Hinson on 16 November 2004 at 05:18 PM.] |
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Tommy Taylor
From:
Sweetlake,Louisiana USA
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Posted 16 Nov 2004 7:50 pm
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I believe the singers and musicians should dress nice out of respect for the opry.
All they would have to do is look at Tommy White. He is a class act!
Tommy |
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Howard Tate
From:
Leesville, Louisiana, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 16 Nov 2004 9:49 pm
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While I prefer the entertainers to dress nice, I know change happens. The Nudie suits went out a while back, and they added to the show, but I don't really miss them. I hate to drummers that play on stage without shirts especially. I hate that the music is not as country as it used to be, but I thank God that The people like Shania for instance, still have great musicians backing them. A lot of the stuff sounds like rock but as long as they have those great steelers and fiddlers and guitar pickers I'll sit through the parts I hate just to get to the parts I love.
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John Lacey
From:
Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 17 Nov 2004 4:58 am
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| "Has an American ever won a Canadian Country Music award?" Ya, Terri Clarke just did. |
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Rick Garrett
From:
Tyler, Texas
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Posted 17 Nov 2004 6:03 am
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Man yall crack me up!!!
Terri Clark won in Canada huh. Isn't she the one with the all girl band? maybe she'll move there.
Rick |
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Don Joslin
From:
St. Paul, MN
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Gene Jones
From:
Oklahoma City, OK USA, (deceased)
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Posted 17 Nov 2004 8:57 am
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Here comes one of the "old" guys again with his sage (but not definitive) observations!
I grew up in an era where red pants, a red shirt, a white shirt, black pants, and red and black neckerchiefs were the standard wardrobe for any musician who worked casual or pickup jobs.
When you accepted a job your final question was always, "red & black, or black & red?", and everyone knew what that meant.
...then in later years after I had taken an extended vacation from playing, I found that everyone "did their own thing" about what to wear for a job.
Personally, I like the most recent trend better. Uniforms are for the military!
www.genejones.com
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Mark Metdker
From:
North Central Texas, USA
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James Cann
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 17 Nov 2004 3:43 pm
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I remember the only time I functioned as an agent/player for an upscale resort gig, and the band I was working with at the time walked out on the booking when I (was asked and) asked them to wear white shirts. Luckily, I was able to call in others that I knew to save the gig (who appreciated the work and who wore white shirts), but I separated from these previous clowns fast and swore never to again be an agent. Who needs that nonsense!
Having said that, real professionals, among other things, realize that performing has to do with being larger than life, something which most audiences appreciate. Whenever they appear, onstage or off, they look, talk, and behave in ways that set them apart, that make you want to see, meet, and if you can, work with them--and in any of these, they often tend to treat you as if you were the big shot!
It all comes down to understnding what respect is all about.
James
Sho-Bud LDG
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 17 Nov 2004 10:46 pm
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| Well put James. My opinion exactly. |
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Drew Howard
From:
48854
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Posted 18 Nov 2004 6:12 am
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The Del McCoury and Doyle Lawson bands wear suits, and they are at the top of the bluegrass world. Sets them apart from everywhere else.
BUT...the honky-tonks I play don't have a dress code. Shoes, pants and shirt suffice.
:>)
Drew
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John Steele
From:
Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 18 Nov 2004 11:51 am
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Ok... well, if it's all about clothes, then y'all don't have to wonder why some circus act like Montgomery Gentry has taken over the stage.
I'm gonna quit practicing at night, and start hanging around in the costume shops, learning how to twirl a mic stand.
-John |
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James Cann
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 19 Nov 2004 8:33 pm
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| Well, not to rub fur the wrong way, but clothes probable wouldn't count any more than wearing neat looking, clean ones, showing up on time, keeping gear in working order, staying sober, interfacing with customers and audience, being gracious and polite, etc., etc., etc. |
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John Lacey
From:
Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 20 Nov 2004 7:16 am
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| "Maybe I missed it if it was a joke but Terri Clark was born in Montreal, Quebec and raised in Medicine Hat, Alberta." Yes, she was, Don but she gave up her Canadian citizenship and became an American. Fine with me, but then she shoudn't be eligible for our Canadian Country Music awards. |
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Jeneé Fleenor
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 20 Nov 2004 10:34 am
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Straight from Terri's mouth...
"I am considered a dual citizen because I have not revoked my Canadian citizenship, and I was born there. I am very proud to be a Canadian, as well as living in a wonderful country like the U.S.A. ... America and Canada have both been very good to me."
Taken from this website: http://www.cmt.com/artists/news/1474235/07182003/judds_the.jhtml
Yes, I do work for her, and I can attest that she is so proud to be from Canada. For goodness sake, she has a maple leaf tatooed to her arm! 
~Jeneé |
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 20 Nov 2004 11:18 am
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| James Caan. This is my point exactly. Its been my observation that most peole won't do it and they are the very same people who complain about the lack of work in the country music area. If people just took the time to do what you said above they would be successful. My band is booked a year out. I have seen others the same way. I find that I can't talk to the sneakers and ratty blue jeans players about this. They just don't get it. People want to be entertained. [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 20 November 2004 at 11:20 AM.] [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 20 November 2004 at 11:23 AM.] |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 20 Nov 2004 12:51 pm
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I understand where Kevin is coming from. But it's hard to get all musicians on the same bandwagon, unless it's a cohesive all-the-same-players-on-every-gig type band. Around Texas, most all the bands I've seen eschew "uniforms" of any type, except for The Derailers, Jake Hooker and the Outsiders, Bobby Flores' Band, and the older Texas Playboy type bands, who wear either matching yet non-flamboyant shirts/pants/ties, or suits. There are others I'm sure, but most bands are "do your own thing" units.
When a group of musicians come from all over Texas to play a one-nighter somewheres, matching outfits are completely problematic, so individuality reigns supreme.
Bush and the Bandoleros used to wear cool western uniforms when I came on the band, but we went casual/individualistic about 5-6 years ago. Personally, I rarely wear jeans to gigs anymore, unless they're new and pressed, with nice shirts. T-shirts are verboten except ONLY for daytime outdoor gigs in the heat of summer. Mostly I wear slacks, or slacks-type Wrangler Wranchers, or suits at gigs. Quite often I look like the proverbial marshmallow in a raisin box, but I don't give a damn. I project what Herb want to look like onstage. Invariably I get compliments from the audience about how I'm dressed. Sometimes the rest of the band picks up on it, but most of the time Johnny and I are the best dressed onstage. Also with James Hand, James and I are usually the best dressed.
Austin, especially, is a very casually dressed town, in all areas of work, not just music. So audiences usually are very forgiving here.
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[This message was edited by Herb Steiner on 20 November 2004 at 12:55 PM.] |
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James Cann
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 20 Nov 2004 8:03 pm
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"When a group of musicians come from all over Texas to play a one-nighter somewheres, matching outfits are completely problematic, so individuality reigns supreme."
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No dissent there, Herb, but I've shared a stage or two with people who had no clue. I remember one who looked liked he'd just come from doing the cooking at a barbecue.
I think--but don't know--that it was Paul "Bear" Bryant who once said, "When you get to the end zone, don't act as though it were your first time."
SB LDG |
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James Cann
From:
Phoenix, AZ
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Posted 21 Nov 2004 7:53 pm
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| Kevin, thanks for your allusory compliment (James Caan); of course, if you could see us side by side, I'd never hear from you by that name again! |
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jay thompson
From:
east peoria, il USA
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Posted 22 Nov 2004 4:52 pm
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John Steele, Right On!
Regards,
Jay Thompson |
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