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Topic: Sus2 AND 4? |
Greg Vincent
From:
Folsom, CA USA
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Posted 31 Aug 2004 7:25 am |
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Hi folks,
We've all seen sus2 chords and sus4 chords; what if you had BOTH the 2 and the 4 in there? I'm thinking about a chord spelled 1,2,4,5. Looks like a train wreck on paper but actually sounds quite nice. It's pretty and open sounding but unstable and seems to want to resolve to the 1 chord. It acts like a 4 over 5 chord.
What would this chord be called?
Sus2+4???
-Insomniac in L.A.
(Back when I just played 6-string guitar I never got out of bed in the middle of the night to try out an idea on my instrument. What is it about PSG that causes me to do this??? --ooops that's another topic  ) |
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Roger Rettig
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Naples, FL
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Posted 31 Aug 2004 8:31 am
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'Sus 4 add 9' would be my guess.
I just played it on guitar - A root, E on the 4th, B on the 3rd, D on the 2nd, and an open E. When I voice the 'third' on the 5th string as an arpeggio, it spoils it.
By the way, I do exactly the same thing - if it's a six-string problem it can wait 'til morning, but I'm frequently sleep-walking to the other room where the steel is! I have no explanation..... 
RR[This message was edited by Roger Rettig on 31 August 2004 at 09:53 AM.] |
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chas smith R.I.P.
From:
Encino, CA, USA
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Posted 31 Aug 2004 9:07 am
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It belongs in the family of 4th chords, or neutral chords. The inversion would be, 5-1-4, such as G-C-F, where the D would be added color. If you listen to McCoy Tyner's playing, way back, it was a way of moving around without defining where you are, which opens up the possibilities of where you could be.
Also, if you listen to film music, a lot of it is neutral to keep it "floating". |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 31 Aug 2004 1:20 pm
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| Some guys write sus42 for that, with the 4 above the 2. |
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Don E. Curtis
From:
St Louis, Missouri, USA (deceased)
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Posted 31 Aug 2004 3:17 pm
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How 'bout a "sus add 2" ?
I guess depending on what ocatave it's in, so if it's on the top it's an add 9, and if the spelling is like you stated, then it's an "add 2" ?
Always intrigued with stuff like this...
Don Curtis
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Tom Olson
From:
Spokane, WA
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Posted 31 Aug 2004 5:05 pm
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| a way of moving around without defining where you are, which opens up the possibilities of where you could be |
In the words of Austin Powers,
"OH YEAH! GROOVY BABY!" |
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Roger Rettig
From:
Naples, FL
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Posted 31 Aug 2004 5:29 pm
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I can't believe I said 'add 9' - I MEANT 'add 2'.
RR |
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Steinar Gregertsen
From:
Arendal, Norway, R.I.P.
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Eric West
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 31 Aug 2004 7:40 pm
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Or a certain politician...
Actually a sus4 is probably the one single note you can play against nearly any chord and not be wrong if you don't know what's happening ninths are a close second.
Susses are annoying to be sure if overused.
EJL |
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John Kavanagh
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Kentville, Nova Scotia, Canada * R.I.P.
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Posted 23 Sep 2004 9:45 am
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The simplest thing is probably C4+2, or with the 4 over the 2. Most people would know to play a fifth but not a third with that. You could also respell it: CDFG could be a C4+2 or a G7sus4, though you'd have to call it G7sus4/C to get the right bass note. The first way's easier all-round, the other way is just trying to force it to look like a "normal" (thirds-based) chord.
When you start getting into that kind of nonfunctional harmony, which they've been using in classical music for about a century, maybe it's time to rethink reading music, or at least look around for a better shorthand. |
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