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Jeff Au Hoy
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Steinar Gregertsen
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Posted 4 Dec 2003 8:08 am
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Technically, probably not.
But I would say that focusing all your energy towards your hands plays a (positive) role, and it 'feels' better, at least to me.
Steinar
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Bill Leff
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Santa Cruz, CA, USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2003 8:30 am
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Jeff:
I'm glad you brought this up. I was really admiring the volume swells that you did on the cuts that you posted here.
For some reason, I *cannot* get the hang of this technique at all. I have a postwar Bakelite. I even raised the knobs higher (I noticed in a picture of Feet Rogers' bakelite that the knobs looked higher so I gave that a shot).
Any tips you can give on learning this technique would be much appreciated!
Mahalo,
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Andy Volk
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Boston, MA
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Posted 4 Dec 2003 10:37 am
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Bill, super glue your pinky to the volume knob and do 300 forward & reverse swells every morning.
I'm a klutz at both the volume knob AND the foot pedal methods. I bought and sold a couple of pedals but it never took. I now own a Fender pedal but my right foot always wants to keep the beat - swingin' & swellin' sounds pretty bad. |
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basilh
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United Kingdom
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Posted 4 Dec 2003 11:04 am
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Hi Jeff.... the answer to your question is ....yes there is something the hand can do that the foot cannot..... the INITIAL part of the swell from ZERO sound to audible sound is quite diferent with the two techniques... it seems to me that most players when they use a foot volume, don't quite take it to fully off and you hear a little of the picking, whereas with the "Pinkie" swell it most definitely is off at the picking point just because the same hand is doing both things. (I think !)
BTW Glad you like the mag.
Eho’opomaikai’ia ‘oe e na makana kamaha’o o keia kau.Me ke aloha e.
May the Wonderous Gifts of the Season be yours.
Greetings of Aloha!
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Jeff Strouse
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Jacksonville, Florida, USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2003 8:16 pm
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| I have trouble getting it in sync with the pinky, so the volume pedal works better for me. I've just started messing around with it pretty recently. |
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Mike D
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Phx, Az
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Posted 6 Dec 2003 5:04 am
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Hey, I thought this was the no peddlers section!  |
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Jesse Pearson
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San Diego , CA
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Posted 6 Dec 2003 5:54 am
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| If I was just playing steel for a country gig, I would use a volume pedal so I could grab wide chords grips like Don Helms does and not worry about my pinky when trying to get a slight violin bow effect. On single line stuff it doesn't matter because the pinky can do it, but wide chord grips are a different story. I thought Jeff's volume swell was perfect for what he was doing. Doing Rockabilly guitar and steel together on the same song, I gotta use touch only on the strings to control the volume level. |
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Al Marcus
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Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Posted 7 Dec 2003 9:45 am
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I used my "Pinky" finger for Volume and tone controls for those many early years of my playing life...............al  .
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Jeff Au Hoy
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Honolulu, Hawai'i
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Posted 9 Dec 2003 1:25 pm
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Bill Leff
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Santa Cruz, CA, USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2003 3:29 pm
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Jeff:
Thanks for the reply. I will try that.
Another question regarding this technique - do you restrict yourself to playing only the first and second strings, and mainly using the thumb or maybe thumb and first finger? Or are you able to do it with thumb, first and second fingers equally well along with the other lower strings, etc?
What little I can manage with this techique is mainly on the first string, using the thumb.
Bill
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George Keoki Lake
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Edmonton, AB., Canada
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Posted 10 Dec 2003 9:33 am
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Being the olde phart that I am, when it comes to pinky volume vs pedal volume, one only has to listen to some of the DICK McINTIRE gems to realize what REAL expression is all about. Volume pedals, (if they were around back in the thirty/forties), were usually home made. Dick was never known to use a volume pedal, 'nor do I think any pics exist showing him using one. Am I wrong ? If so, please post the pic showing him using a foot volume...I'd love to see it!
Many guitar manufacturers place the volume control in the most awkward places on the body thus making the pinky technic an impossibility. Gibson EH-150 are a prime example, as are some Rickenbackers. |
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