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Jeff Au Hoy
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Posted 19 Oct 2003 5:54 pm |
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Al Terhune
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Posted 19 Oct 2003 8:42 pm
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Mr. Hawaii,
I've heard Billy and Basil, and it ain't the guitar. Now, I know that's not the point, but I don't want you misleading people thinking that if they get a Fender 800, they'll sound like those two pros.
Be that as it may, you've got me wanting to get a Fender 800...
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Al Terhune
From:
Newcastle, WA
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Posted 19 Oct 2003 8:48 pm
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| P.S.: Sustain, at least to my understanding, is related in a major way (not exclusively) to the size of the tuning head on guitars, which is why they offer "C-clamp" type things to put on bass guitar heads to give more sustain (adding mass to the heads). Because of their cabinets, pedal steels and console laps will sustain longer than lap guitars...which is why I can pluck a string on my Gibson Grande (console), and wake up the next morning with the string still vibrating. |
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Chuck Fisher
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Santa Cruz, California, USA * R.I.P.
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Posted 20 Oct 2003 12:27 am
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sustain is about body mass and hardness, I think. The really cheap Morrell Pro 6 sustains forever, 2" maple weighs like 12 lbs, its cheepo, but the 6 sounds good, the Roy Wiggins 8 needs a different pickup.
I hate to admit its good with all the gibsons etc I have! |
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Jeb Baldwin
From:
Climax, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 20 Oct 2003 6:25 pm
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Jeff,
I play a Fender 400 and Im with you. The tone Is hard to describe! There is somthing about it that reaches out and grabs you. Is yours a Double Neck? Thanks. |
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Jody Carver
From:
KNIGHT OF FENDER TWEED
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Posted 20 Oct 2003 6:29 pm
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Jeff and all you boys..Its about time you discovered what Leo designed so many years ago. I have preached the design and tone capabilities of the 1000 400 800..Im happy to see that you people have finally realized
Fender was way ahead of its time. 
I have said this before and will say it till
the day I die..There Will Never Be Another
LEO FENDER |
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basilh
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United Kingdom
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Posted 21 Oct 2003 2:31 pm
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Jody my friend,.......you are so so right
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I have A Deluxe 8 (22½"), a Stringmaster twin 8 (24½"), and a Fender 1000 (23") and I personally think that the 1000 has the best sound EVEN though it has the singular angled pickups. They ALL have better sustain that any of my other guitars (and I have many)
The 1000 has the best sustain, and I suspect that the Aluminum/Magnesium frame has something to do with that.
I'm sure Jody can throw a bit of light upon the subject of the pick-ups on the 400,1000, 800, 2000 series. I know that Jeff is NOT refering to the larger pick-ups that were on early models.
Welcome to "The Club" Jeff.Lets hear some of your "Stuff" on this new guitar.
BTW I Loved your set at the HSGA convention (I just got a video of it)
Basil Henriques
www.waikiki-islanders.com
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http://www.waikiki-islanders.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Jeff Au Hoy
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Honolulu, Hawai'i
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Posted 21 Oct 2003 5:45 pm
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Chris Scruggs
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Nashville, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2003 11:13 pm
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Jeff,
I have a 1958 Fender 400 pedal steel with the aluminum frame and the rectangular "Jazzmaster" pickup. It sounds great to me. Here is a tuning idea you might consider, as I find it usefull for everything, from Hawaiian, to Western, to Country.
Here is the open E9 tuning I use.
1.E
2.B
3.G#
4.F#
5.E
6.D
7.G#
8.E
Pedal one moves string two from B to C#, pedal two moves string three from G# up to A, pedal three moves strings six and seven from D to G# to C# and A, and pedal four moves string five down to D#.
The cool thing is I can get all my main lap steel tunings on one neck and still play basic pedal steel E to A stuff, too.
Completely open it is E 9.
With pedal 1 down it is C#minor9.
With pedals 1, 2, and 3 down it is A6.
All four pedals down it is B11.
All I'm missing is C6, but I can work that stuff out with my A6.
I like the fact that it feels like my 24 1/2" Stringmaster. I think it looks better than an ugly modern pedal steel, too. |
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basilh
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 30 Oct 2003 2:57 pm
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Aloha Jeff.... how are you getting on with the new guitar ?
Baz |
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