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Mike Perlowin


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Los Angeles CA
Post  Posted 17 May 2003 9:42 pm    
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I am currently working on another CD, and one of the selections will be the 3rd movement of a concerto written for four guitars. I am playing the guitar parts on guitars as they were written and the various orchestral parts on steel (with different effects) and mandolin.

I have both the conductor's score, and a piano reduction with the guitar parts, as well as 3 different recordings of the piece which I am studying. The piano reduction has the piano part and all 4 guitar parts all together, and then a separate copy of each of the individual guitar parts.

The conductor's score jibes perfectly with the recordings, as one would expect. However, the piano reduction has an extra measure thrown in about 1/3 through the piece. Moreover, two of the individual guitar parts match the piano reduction, and two of them have a second extra measure following the first one.

So not only doesn't the piano reduction and guitar parts not line up with the conductor's score or the various recordings, the individual don't even line up with the piano reduction, or each other.

How is anybody supposed to play the piece when the sheet music is this skewered?
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Larry Miller

 

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Dothan AL,USA
Post  Posted 18 May 2003 8:48 am    
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Improvise
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Paul Graupp

 

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Macon Ga USA
Post  Posted 18 May 2003 12:17 pm    
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When I was young and in my prime; I would buy sheet music and try to learn from it but I would always get in way over my head and go on to something else. Now, I see, maybe it wasn't always me.

Regards, Paul
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 18 May 2003 3:10 pm    
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The "piano reduction" is garbage. Do they have recycle bins in your neighbohood?
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Mike Perlowin


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Los Angeles CA
Post  Posted 18 May 2003 3:26 pm    
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The "piano reduction" is garbage


True. But piano reductions are useful to when it comes to figuring stuff out. They make it easier for me to transpose the parts in the conductor scale that are written for instruments like clarinets or trumpets that aren't written in C.
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Dave Birkett

 

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Oxnard, CA, USA
Post  Posted 19 May 2003 11:07 am    
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Hey Mike, when a conductor of an opera rehearses the singers, doesn't the rehearsal pianist play a piano reduction of what the orchestra plays?
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Mike Perlowin


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Los Angeles CA
Post  Posted 19 May 2003 11:18 am    
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I don't know Dave.
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Ernie Renn


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Brainerd, Minnesota USA
Post  Posted 22 May 2003 7:30 am    
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Gosh, Mike, play it however you want to.

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Jim Cohen


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Philadelphia, PA
Post  Posted 22 May 2003 7:32 am    
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EGAD.
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Dave Horch

 

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Frederick, Maryland, USA
Post  Posted 22 May 2003 8:33 pm    
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In my experience with conducting, I would stick with the conductors score. Your note makes me think you have the most confidence in it anyway. If it were a live group of players, I would have them pencil out the measures that didn't match with my score.

Best, -Dave

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Ole Dantoft


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Copenhagen, Denmark
Post  Posted 22 May 2003 10:40 pm    
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Mike Perlowin


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Post  Posted 22 May 2003 10:57 pm    
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I would stick with the conductors score.

That's what I'm doing Dave. The score jibes with the recordings. The piano reduction does not.

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