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Topic: Toby Keith/Willie video |
Stephen Gambrell
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Posted 8 May 2003 1:03 pm |
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Just saw this video for some doofus tune,about "Beer for Horses"(don't sound like much of a trade to me), with Mssrs. Keith and Nelson. Could someone explain to me, simply, when "country" music turned into a poorly written Bruce Willis movie?
And then, an Allison Krause video---'scuse me, I'm gonna go listen to Ernest Tubb, and Don Reno after that.
Did videos cause music to be this way, or the other way around? |
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Joey Ace
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Posted 9 May 2003 4:22 am
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Excellent question.
I'd say Video caused it.
Particularly when they decided to make them "mini-movies", rather than showing live (or faked) performances.
That move also took away the listners individual interpertation of a song. |
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Jack Francis
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Queen Creek, Arizona, USA
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Posted 9 May 2003 5:32 am
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I thought that Willies money problems were behind him...I'd a thought that he'd have better sense than to allow himself to be used like this.
You'd think that he would have learned something with his last go 'round with the folks in charge of the music biz.  |
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Kevin Hatton
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Posted 9 May 2003 6:27 am
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"CMT, in partners with Infinity Broadcasting!". Thats what I hear on the radio every five minutes. Translation - We're
from N.Y. City and we're gonna turn your culture into our idea of what it should be. We never liked YOU PEOPLE anyhow and now we're going to destroy your music by turning it into a vanity video contest. We bought you from Gaylord and we can do anything we want to you because YOU PEOPLE are too stupid to realize what we're doing and we have all the power here in New York. So go away all you REDNECKS. We'll tell YOU whats country. Willie get over here now! I've got a job for you.[This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 09 May 2003 at 07:28 AM.] [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 09 May 2003 at 07:29 AM.] [This message was edited by Kevin Hatton on 09 May 2003 at 07:29 AM.] |
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Tommy Minniear
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Posted 9 May 2003 7:03 am
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Kevin, They don't have to tell me to go away. I quit watching videos all together: unless someone I trust suggest one, which is rare. I like hearing a singer and musicians create a mental scene in my mind with the songwriter's words and/or melody. I've seldom seen a video match or measure up to it!
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Tommy Minniear
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Herb Steiner
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Posted 9 May 2003 7:18 am
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Marshall McLuhan wrote about this phenomenon back in the 1960's in two excellent and prescient books entitled Understanding Media, and The Medium Is The Message.
Generally music without visuals is a much more personal experience, because the listener must use his imagination to get involved in how the performance is seen in the mind's eye.
When videos are added to the music, the mind no longer can be free to go where it will since the visuals are provided to the listener and instructs him/her on "what to see". It's a less-involved, lazier experience.
Just like our whole society/culture, less-involved and lazier.
I'm of an age when radio drama was on the way out when I was a kid, but I did have the opportunity to listen to great radio theatre. Same thing there; I had to make the story look like I my brain felt it should look, I was more involved. TV made it an easier, but lazier experience.
Also, I recall back in the mid-80's, I was watching a music video and commented on what a bizarre song it was. My friend said "It's just a straight ahead Chuck Berry-type song if you close your eyes and just listen to the track." He was right. The outlandish video attached to the song completely changed the experience.
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Herb's Steel Guitar Pages
Texas Steel Guitar Association
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 9 May 2003 7:41 am
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| Herb, thats a brilliant observation. |
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Stephen Gambrell
From:
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Posted 9 May 2003 12:28 pm
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Yeah, don't you love it when you hear somebody say, "Hey, have you SEEN _______'s
new song?" I wonder how many young couples still have "our song," in this video age?
We've come up with "artificial intelligence," I guess it's only natural that artificial imagination would follow.
So does this mean today's music folks are actor wannabes?
Brings up the old question, "what did you do with that money you were supposed to spend on singing lessons."
I can't wait for an Eric West video. Guy on a Harley, with a Pro II in the sidecar, singing Civil War duets with Hankey. Just who's gonna be the one with the wet hair? |
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