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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 27 May 2002 9:18 pm |
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Does anyone get the feeling that CMT has been taken over by the rock crowd? What does
Elton John and Ryan Adams have anything to do
with country music? Ryan Adams is a garage band rock talent and Elton John is a has been searching for one more publicity shot. Neither of them can sing a country song like its country. Why is this garbage on the suposed country station CMT? |
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Geoff Brown
From:
Nashvegas
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Posted 28 May 2002 2:18 am
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I agree. Sad to see the stuff Ryan Adams is churning out these days. It pales in comparison to the stuff he did with Whiskeytown. I'd be happy to see Whiskeytown on CMT, but I doubt the band made any videos when they were together, and the music wouldn't fit CMT's format. Whiskeytown sure made some great music tho  |
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Jerry Hayes
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Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 28 May 2002 5:31 am
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I'd have to disagree about Elton John being a has-been!! I think he's a major world wide superstar and is one of the most influencial musicians of the last century. To me his music is timeless. I still love to listen to his old "Madman Across the Water" album as well as others. And by the way, he has used Pedal Steel Guitar on some of his tunes. The great lead guitarist of the Desert Rose Band and the Hellecasters (John Jorgensen) has been working with him for a while now. I don't agree with Elton's politics or his sexual orientation but I love his music. As far as Ryan Adams goes, I haven't heard any of his stuff yet but I'll check him out just to see what the fuss is.
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Larry Bell
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Englewood, Florida
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Posted 28 May 2002 7:05 am
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Guys, I'm firmly with Jerry on this one.
Biting the hand that feeds us is not wise. Elton John has used pedal steed (albeit sparingly -- remember BJCole on 'Tiny Dancer'?) throughout his recording career and this is very rare for a pop artist. Ryan Adams has been an alt.country performer and used steel on much of his recording and touring repertoire.
Plus, I thought Bucky sounded GREAT. Super to hear steel on songs like 'Daniel'.
Opening up a bit to something other than shuffles and swing will provide a lot of good entertainment -- it may surprise you. Shoot, I even have a CD or two in my collection that has NO STEEL. Maybe that's a sacrelige to some, but there IS music outside of our little circle here that's worthy of listening to. If we don't broaden our horizons our instrument will wither and die.
Just my opinion.
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Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
2000 Fessenden S-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Emmons D-10 9x9, 1971 Dobro
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 28 May 2002 7:08 am
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Who was the steel player?
He was playing a green Sho-Bud, and had a very cool tone. I thought it sounded like maybe a Deluxe Reverb on the edge of distortion.
I thought the music sounded good. Good quality of sound.
Something about the interview kinda turned me off though. Elton is Elton, but the other guy seemed a little too fabricated fruity... as in... Playing the role of Eltons Johns bitch tonight...
I thought the steel sounded cool on "Daniel".
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Bill Terry
From:
Bastrop, TX
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Posted 28 May 2002 7:13 am
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I caught a few minutes of that show. It had steel guitar on some of the early EJ tunes that had it, I think I heard Tiny Dancer, but I also heard a couple where they let the guy go some outside the original recorded arrangement. It sounded pretty cool to me. Not country, but still nice playing inside the genre. I think the steel player had an LDG but I wasn't sure, only got a glimpse of it. Sounded good and was up in the mix on the 2 or 3 songs I heard. Wonder who it was?
I agree with Jerry, I'm not much on EJ's personal life (and don't pay much attention to it), but the guy is a talented musician and songwriter.
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Larry Bell
From:
Englewood, Florida
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Posted 28 May 2002 7:54 am
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It was Bucky Baxter.
And, you're right Bill, the British don't bestow knighthood on just any musician.
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Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
2000 Fessenden S-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Emmons D-10 9x9, 1971 Dobro
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Joe Miraglia
From:
Jamestown N.Y.
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Posted 28 May 2002 5:25 pm
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| Jerry and Larry--Your comments are right on. I get the impression from some of the posts that if it is country music you had better use a steel guitar and if you play a steel guitar you had better play country music. Steel guitar is a musical instrument and is not just meant for country music. Larry--Say "HI" to the Beast for me. Joe |
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 28 May 2002 9:29 pm
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| I guess my point is not about the music. I enjoyed the music, and the performance. When does George Jones ever get a spot on MTV? Or Merle Haggard? It just doesn't belong on a country station. |
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Larry Bell
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Englewood, Florida
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Posted 29 May 2002 6:11 am
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Kevin,
You're thinking with your head, not your wallet (or some other part of your anatomy in that same general location).
If you're gonna second guess network execs you gotta get your priorities straight, dude.
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Larry Bell - email: larry@larrybell.org - gigs - Home Page
2000 Fessenden S-12 8x8, 1969 Emmons S-12 6x6, 1971 Emmons D-10 9x9, 1971 Dobro
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 29 May 2002 12:46 pm
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| Maybe I'm wrong, but to me I tune in CMT to listen to country music(and there's damn little of it left). If I want to see Elton John I'll turn to MTV. I resent him being on there. MTV never has country acts on. But like I say, maybe I'm wrong. Maybe its just me. I actually like Elton's music and I'm glad Bucky got a TV spot with him. I'd like to see Ralph Stanley on and do something like where Bluegrass meets country. Your right Larry maybe I have wrong thinking. I don't mean to be mean spirited. |
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BobG
From:
Holmdel, NJ
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Posted 29 May 2002 2:46 pm
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I can't remember enjoying a show more than this one.
Fine Pedal Steel holding it's own with Elton Johns keyboard.
Be happy ... it's a good thing |
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Theresa Galbraith
From:
Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 29 May 2002 3:08 pm
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| Hopefully, I can catch a rerun. Theresa [This message was edited by Theresa Galbraith on 29 May 2002 at 04:09 PM.] |
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Joe Miraglia
From:
Jamestown N.Y.
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Posted 29 May 2002 5:50 pm
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| This is not new to country music. Artists have always crossed over--that great gal from Canada, Anne Murray, Patti Paige, remember the classic "The Tennessee Waltz", Nancy Sinatra, who even posed for PLAYBOY, Conway Twitty, who started with rock and roll, Ricky Nelson, Ray Charles and the list goes on. Joe |
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BobG
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Holmdel, NJ
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Posted 30 May 2002 2:44 am
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| If I want to see Elton John I'll turn to MTV |
Have you tuned in to
MTV lately ? trust me ... the last thing
you'll hear on it is Elton John.
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J W Hock
From:
Anderson, Texas, USA
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Posted 30 May 2002 6:34 am
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Also Joe , people forget that even Dean Martin cut two fine country albums in the mid-sixties. Not to mention Ray Charles's groundbreaking work.
That said, I believe that pop and mainstream country were somehow more compatable back then. The level of musicianship was better , the styles both more genuine. In short, Nashville had respect for its rural roots and those pop artists who sometimes worked there ,for the most part , paid homage to those roots.
Today Nashville does'nt respect anything but reaching that mid-thirties female demographic and the almighty dollar! |
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Tony Orth
From:
Evansville, Indiana, USA
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Posted 30 May 2002 9:17 am
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Some people feel the rain. Others just get wet.
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