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Topic: Opry TV lineup Mar 2 |
Dan Hatfield
From: Columbia, Mo USA
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Posted 6 May 2002 7:37 am
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One of the things I like about "Country Music" is the fact that its boundaries keep expanding and expanding and expanding. While I am getting to be an old man and my tastes still go back to Ray Price and Patsy Cline, my children are a different story. Do you think my children would ever be interested in hearing Porter Wagoner (sp)? Never in a million years!! But they do enjoy Rascal Flats (sp) and I get to go to a RF concert next month with my son who is totally enthusiastic about it. Now I am pleased that my son is into "country music" even though his tastes are different than mine. When he tunes in to a "country station" to hear RF he will also hear some steel guitar on other people's records and that is a good thing. I am proud that "country" is big enough to allow groups like The Oak Ridge Boys, Alabama, Charlie Daniels, and many others to participate in the fraternity/sorority of "country music", even though these groups don't carry a steel guitar. If Ray Charles announced today that he wanted to become known as a "country" star, nothing would make me more happy, because he makes music that touches my soul and he can sing country music with the best of them. Why can't we embrace all styles of those who want to participate and be proud of the fact that "country" can lay some "variety" on you. Ever been to a "blues" concert where you get four hours of blues, and blues, and more blues and its all the same chord progressions and the same tempo? Well I think variety is the spice of life and I for one am proud of the diversity that is offered by "country music". When I hear a Ray Price tune, I want to hear those Emmons licks in there; but when I hear the Oak Ridge Boys, its OK with me that the steel is not there because they sound fine without it. Just my two cents; now excuse me while I put on my bullet-proof vest. :>)
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Theresa Galbraith
From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 6 May 2002 9:49 am
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Ray,
Thanks for my quote.
You don't know me well, but I'd probably ask if the cornbread was made with buttermilk? If not, I'd want Rolls!
My statement was meaning I like diversity. If you don't like it, don't watch. I do that alot!
I try not to dwell on things I don't like.
Dan,
I hope your mom, Anita, has a great Mother's Day! Theresa |
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Mike Sweeney
From: Nashville,TN,USA
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Posted 6 May 2002 10:05 am
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After reading all this and discussing it between ourselves, we felt we had to add this comment. Like anything or listen to anything that gives you some enjoyment. Just don't put rolls on the table and tell me it's cornbread.
Mike and Teresa Sweeney |
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Ray Jenkins
From: Gold Canyon Az. U.S.A.
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Posted 6 May 2002 10:14 am
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Just don't put rolls on the table and tell me it's cornbread. |
Me neither Mike.
Theresa,I haven't watched the G.O.O in 2 years
Ray
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Steeling is still legal in Arizona[This message was edited by Ray Jenkins on 06 May 2002 at 11:16 AM.] [This message was edited by Ray Jenkins on 06 May 2002 at 11:16 AM.] |
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Theresa Galbraith
From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 6 May 2002 11:39 am
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Bill,
I'm not trying to be a trouble maker. This forum is suppose to be about steel. We all have opinions.
Ray,
If you haven't watched the Opry in 2 years, what are you complaining about?
Mike,
I don't think the GOO has ever been pure country. It's always had diversity. Maybe, I'm wrong with my statement. Theresa |
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Ray Jenkins
From: Gold Canyon Az. U.S.A.
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Posted 6 May 2002 12:12 pm
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quote: Ray,
If you haven't watched the Opry in 2 years, what are you complaining about?
You are the one that said,[QUOTE]My statement was meaning I like diversity. If you don't like it, don't watch. I do that alot!
I try not to dwell on things I don't like.[QUOTE]
What I'm complaining about is,people calling country -country when it is not.Alot like calling "buttermilk cornbread" rolls.
I don't listen to the radio,I listen to my tapes and CD's.Oh!! and I read the forum.
Ray
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Mike Sweeney
From: Nashville,TN,USA
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Posted 6 May 2002 12:41 pm
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Since I posted a reply a little while ago, I suppose I should be the one to answer this. I never said the Opry was pure country. No one in his right mind would ever say Bill Monroe was country. Over the years, the Opry has hosted many artists from other fields of music...BUT, no one ever introduced them as country acts. My point here is that while these new acts may be fine in their fields, and may have quite a bit of support from their fans, they are NOT Country acts and I'm tired of being told that they are. I will be the first to admit that I do not play any instrument and have never worked in the music business, but having grown up in it I do have a fair understanding of what constitutes a country act. As always, this is only my opinion but I firmly believe that the people who are convinced that some of the new "hat acts" are country are the very reason we don't hear fiddle and steel used in the recording studio anymore. All things must change and progress if they are to stay alive and interesting and want to attract new individuals and perceptions. This definitely can be done where country music is concerned and people like Brad Paisley have proved it. To me there should be no comparison between a country singer like him and a "new act" like Phil Vasser. As far as Phil being able to sing better dancing around the stage than most do standing still, someone needs to have their hearing checked. I know some of the old-timers at the Opry don't sing as well as they once did but we should still respect what they have done and the FACT that fans still want to hear them. Who would have wanted to be the one to tell Grandpa Jones that he was singing off key?? Not me, I can assure you! I'm sure I will get negative feedback from this, but I felt this needed to be said by a non-player.
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Joe Miraglia
From: Jamestown N.Y.
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Posted 6 May 2002 1:05 pm
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Why do we call it country music in the first place? Any Country Music. [This message was edited by Joe Miraglia on 07 May 2002 at 06:49 AM.] |
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Theresa Galbraith
From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 6 May 2002 1:25 pm
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I've been accused of "Just Liking Music"! I like that about myself and it's a nice complement!
I love the Opry concept, because of that too! I wouldn't want to segregate the up- and-coming from the legend artists. Theresa |
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Mike Sweeney
From: Nashville,TN,USA
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Posted 6 May 2002 1:50 pm
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I have to believe that we do count in the scheme of things, if not why bother to voice your opinion at all. I realize that record producers or artist managers could care less what I think but that's their loss. If they took in to account the opinions of more of the people of our generation instead of gearing their products(and that is about all some of these new acts are)for the 17 to 25 year old group we probably wouldn't be having this conversation.
I like to think I can find something I like to listen to in almost any music genre. I will admit that on a personal basis, I do not like rap and can't find any thing I want to hear in that area. I grew up with a bluegrass and country background with some gospel thrown in for good measure, but was never told I couldn't listen to anything. The first Beatles record I ever owned was one my Dad bought for me when I was a teenager. He thought they were terrible and didn't understand how I could like them. On the advice of his boss, Roy Acuff, he bought it for me anyway. As Mr.Roy said at the time, it ain't country but at least she's listening. As I said previously(and I promise not to repeat it)what you like and what you listen to is not the point here. The point is that just because someone has steel or fiddle or banjo for that matter on their record does not mean they are a country artist or act and I resent being told that they are. To put it in plain English, don't pee on my leg and then tell me it's raining, I'm too smart for that.
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John Steele
From: Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 6 May 2002 2:04 pm
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keep in mind if your opinion don't match the people watching they will cut it out they got the POWER
I can't find a word to describe how vehemently I disagree with that statement.
In my opinion, this forum has been moderated in an extremely fair and objective way, and always has.
Trolls hate moderators like crooks hate cops.
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Theresa Galbraith
From: Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 6 May 2002 2:34 pm
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I don't think anyone one is saying, "that's not country". People watching on TV, maybe watching for the first time... If they see new acts and legend acts performing they might be drawn in to country music. What's wrong with that? I don't understand all the labeling. I work with people that like what they hear on the radio and they are buying what they like! Theresa [This message was edited by Theresa Galbraith on 06 May 2002 at 03:46 PM.] |
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Joe Miraglia
From: Jamestown N.Y.
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Posted 6 May 2002 2:35 pm
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Go Biil Go! Keep that up And you wont want to haer or play country any more. Joe |
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Joe Miraglia
From: Jamestown N.Y.
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Posted 7 May 2002 8:30 am
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Hay,Retcop Pizza sounds good to me.I see they dropped the Viagra ad. Whats that tell you? Bill DON'T SAY IT! Joe |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 8 May 2002 7:06 am
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Bill, please stay on topic. I opened this thread to read about the Opry, not to read rants about the way this Forum is run.
If you get the boot, it will be because of your continual badgering and harassing, not because of your opinions of country music.
I'm closing this topic.
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Bobby Lee
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