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Theresa Galbraith
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Posted 8 Mar 2002 4:11 am |
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This thread is old. Subjective sounds good to me. Sorry you guys can't control, tame, subdue country today.
I'll take Trisha over Connie anyday. So we'll just disagree. I hope you guys have a great new day 
Theresa |
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Dave Robbins
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Posted 8 Mar 2002 7:10 am
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Subdue, tame, control? Looks like the market is pretty well taking care of that. As for subdue, tame, control?... whose trying? I doubt this forum will have any influence. But, it does look like YOU (Therersa) would subdue, tame, or control if you could. As for me? I'm just supporting a true form of American music and an instrument (steel guitar) that has made it's place there.
I look at it this way...I like mash potatoes, corn, green beans and steak. I place them all neatly on my plate and eat them indivdually. I don't mix them all up into one big pile on my plate. I like my music the same way. I don't like it all mixed up and turned into something that is unpalatible. Today's one "size fits all," rock-n-roll wanna-be ("new country?") music is just too unpalatible for me.
If "real" country music is too embarrassing for you, go listen to something else on some other radio station that will make you feel real "cool" in case someone accidently hears what you're listening to.
Country Music's past is tainted with those who have tried to turn it into something other than what it is. Today, it is still no different. There are still those who are trying to turn it into something else (I beleive they like to look at it as "expanding it's horizon into other markets and listeners"). It is still just as unsuccessful. Trying to make it palatible to those who wouldn't listen to it otherwise is futule! Today's country music is split between those who either like it or hate it and that certainly is not good for the industry, which is becoming more and more obvious everyday. The turmoil starts at the bottom and works it's way up gradually. Eventually it reaches the top where those who have made the most money from it will began to feel the "crunch" too. Then we'll really see some "whining!"
I'm out'a here,
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Theresa Galbraith
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Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 8 Mar 2002 7:24 am
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Dave,
I told you to go back and reread my very first post. It was simply my review of the opry last Saturday.
Please don't tell me I'm not an advocate for Steel.
I'm as country as cornbread. I happen to like rolls for a change.
Like I said, we disagree! You have a great new day! Theresa |
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Dave Robbins
From:
Cottontown, Tnn. USA (deceased)
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Posted 8 Mar 2002 8:02 am
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Yes Theresa, I did read your review. I also noticed your leaving us out of it, too. Of course, I realize I don't play a "Franklin" steel. You being such a big "advocate" of steel guitar, I shouldn't think that would make any difference. So, I assume it was just personnal.
You have a great day ,too.
Dave (Emmons LeGrande III) |
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Frank Estes
From:
Huntsville, AL
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Posted 8 Mar 2002 8:36 am
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I suggest that some of you read Buddy's answer to the question I asked him about his take on "Today's Country." http://www.buddyemmons.com/_board/00000068.htm I wonder how many of you should change your name to "Joe?"  |
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Joe Casey
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Posted 8 Mar 2002 9:33 am
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Not Me .Have to change my name that is.Except I may be Joe "Scotch" if I did.
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kyle reid
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Posted 8 Mar 2002 9:40 am
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| You guys are never going to get anywhere with someone who prefers Trisha over Connie! & I thought this was a steel forum, not a favorite singer, "country or not" forum? |
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Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 8 Mar 2002 5:15 pm
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Theresa G.
Are you aware that Connie Smith didn't have a host of heavyweights pushing her to stardom, when her recording of Bill Anderson's "Once A Day" held the #1 position on the charts for 8 weeks? It was on the Country chart for a 7 month period.
Connie's song, "I'll Come Running", was, and still is one of the most difficult challenges to advanced steel guitarists. The great Weldon Myrick helped to arrange the steel guitar back-up, and it can be enjoyed today as it was when first recorded.
Bill H. [This message was edited by Bill Hankey on 09 March 2002 at 12:06 AM.] |
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Theresa Galbraith
From:
Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 8 Mar 2002 8:54 pm
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Hi! Bill,
I'm aware of Connie's "Once A Day" and "I'll Come Running" hits, because I would sing along while Paul was learning Weldon's great licks! Connie was my favorite female singer back then. I still listen to those great records and I have her Boxset.
I meant to say Trisha is my favorite female singer today. She uses Paul and what he does on those records are great also! To me Trisha is country, others disagree. Fine![This message was edited by Theresa Galbraith on 08 March 2002 at 08:59 PM.] |
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Loren Nelson
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Nashville, TN, USA
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Posted 8 Mar 2002 11:50 pm
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| Theresa, If what Paul played on Trisha's records is so important to the song, than how come Trisha is able to perform live without a steel guitar? How come Joe Diffie, Phil Vasser, Tracy Lawrence, and a host of others don't have steel guitar in their live bands any more? The un-importance of steel in 'Modern' Country has put me out of work! Unless, I want to be a 'token' steel player in a Pop band! That's not what I spent my life preparing for. That's not why I moved to Nashville. I'd rather dig a ditch! |
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Loren Nelson
From:
Nashville, TN, USA
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Posted 9 Mar 2002 12:08 am
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Dave, You sounded GREAT on TV! You had a phenominal tone! (You played nice too) Were you playing your LeGrande III? You get a wonderful tone on the radio too. I heard you tonight on the Friday night Opry and you get such an incredible sound! I loved the solo you took tonight. Your playing always impresses me, but that ride shocked me! (but in a good way) Keep up the good work. See you tomorrow night at the Texas Troubador Theater!
Loren N.
original LeGrande loafer 6X5
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Bill Hankey
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Pittsfield, MA, USA
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Posted 9 Mar 2002 1:15 am
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Theresa G.
Trisha Yearwood is pure uptown country, having been the daughter of a banker dad, which is miles apart from a coal miner's daughter.
Influences from the situations that we are placed in, determines our thoughts and pleasures. Some of the entertainers who have experienced hardships, remain totally faithful
to their country roots, regardless of fame and fortune. There is plenty of room for "pour out your heart" country in today's world of transitory vocalizing, and thunderous over-dubbing of sounds not related to heartfelt music.
Thank you for your responses.
Bill H. |
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Theresa Galbraith
From:
Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 9 Mar 2002 5:09 am
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Loren,
I think what Paul played on all those hit records helped sell their records!
The artists make the decision to carry whom they want for whatever reason? I'm sorry you lost your gig with Tracy. The business is tough now. The reason you came to town is the same reason Paul and others came too! It's changed, it's life!
These threads change too, no one ever stays on the original topic
Theresa |
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Dave Robbins
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Cottontown, Tnn. USA (deceased)
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Posted 9 Mar 2002 12:51 pm
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Theresa,
your response about the artist making the decision to carry whom ever they want for whatever the reason is exactly the point I made way earlier in this topic! I think the reason she doesn't carry steel is obvious.
If Paul's work (respectfully) on the album played such an important part in selling it, why wouldn't she want the steel there on stage once again to help sell? Especially if it is such an integral part of the sound. Like I said, I think the reason is obvious. I once again repeat, my compliments to her producer for having the smarts to recognize the use of steel if they plan on marketing in a country market place. To bad she doesn't see it that way. (as you said,"her decision for whatever reason. I think it is obvious).
I respect her as a "singer" but not as a "country" singer. To that point I really don't think she cares. With her TV roles on TV (JAG), movies etc, I don't think having the finances to employ a steel player is a problem. Maybe she is afraid a steel will make her too "country?" Pop singer yes, country singer no.
It is funny you are such an advocate of steel guitar until it boils down to whether it is "new country" or not. Then you turn coat! As for your being an advocate of steel guitar? It looks like that is only the case when it is "convenient" for you.
Even Dottie West (whom I also worked for at one time) had steel guitar "live."
Even Pointer Sisters used steel guitar when they wanted to cut a "country" song (remember "Fairy Tale"?). You'd think even Trisha would see the connection. As for you...well, I'm supprised you don't!..
I mean.. you being such an advocate of steel guitar and all!
Long live Connie Smith (with Dumplin on steel).
Dave |
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Theresa Galbraith
From:
Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 9 Mar 2002 3:13 pm
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Dave,
You need to stop worrying about what I think. I'm disappointed in the artists' decision not to carry steel. I'm not a turn coat just because I didn't say it earlier. You sure like calling names! Like who you like and I'll do the same.
Theresa |
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Dave Robbins
From:
Cottontown, Tnn. USA (deceased)
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Posted 10 Mar 2002 7:33 am
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Nows whose whining!
Dave |
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Mike Weirauch
From:
Harrisburg, Illinois**The Hub of the Universe
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Posted 10 Mar 2002 9:08 pm
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ROTFLMAO!!!!!!! 
Dave - 3
Theresa - 0 |
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David Pennybaker
From:
Conroe, TX USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2002 8:18 am
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Tracey Lawrence doesn't have a steel player anymore on the road? I saw him just last year (in a small venue) and he had his steel player with him.
I was talking with the fiddler player after the concert, and it sounded like Tracey was moving back towards more traditional country again.
Hard to believe he's gotten rid of his steel player.
Sometimes the bands you'd least expect to have a steel player have one. Mark Wills has one, as do The Wilkinsons. |
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Loren Nelson
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Nashville, TN, USA
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Posted 11 Mar 2002 11:32 pm
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Theresa,
It bothers me that someone can go to hear their favorite singer "live" and can't leave the concert having heard parts that Paul came up with. The reason Artists can get away with this is becouse their music is so far from being Country that no one misses the Steel. Eventually the Producers will pick up on that and realize that Steel isn't needed on the records either! I don't want that to happen to Paul, becouse when Country Music "evolves" to the point where he's hurting for work, a couple dozen of us road players will be OUT of work!
Now, I'm sure you'll say that "once again we've strayed from the topic", but no matter what the topic is, You continually have to remind us how Great it is that Country Music is EVOLVING. It's not evolving, it's dying! And, that's killing me! Not becouse I'm out of work, but becouse I have to spend my day listening to talk radio!!!!
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Loren Nelson
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Nashville, TN, USA
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Posted 12 Mar 2002 1:42 am
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Hey! How come there's no Singing on 'Talk Radio'? Why can't it Evolve?!! It's a shame that it puts such limitations on itself. Why can't it expand? It would only make it better! Right?
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David Pennybaker
From:
Conroe, TX USA
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Posted 12 Mar 2002 8:52 am
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| Hey! How come there's no Singing on 'Talk Radio'? Why can't it Evolve?!! . . .It would only make it better! Right? |
Actually, yeah, it would.
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GORDY NICHOL
From:
chattanooga,tn usa
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Posted 13 Mar 2002 12:23 pm
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| If any one listened to Eddie Stubbs last night ,he had Johnny Bush as a guest.Johnny made a good statement about new artists and how the sound is not the same as it used to be.(As we all know!!!!) He more or less stated that,It's more or less the young PRODUCERS that are creating the non-country sounds(That most of us don't like).He also said that he can't tell some of the new people apart from the others.Johnny said that "He felt sorry for some of the newer artists,because they might not have any control over their sound." Of course this is one mans opinion,but look at who the man is!!! I wonder if we should start throwing rocks at young producers,instead of new artists or relatives of famous steel persons????? |
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Loren Nelson
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Nashville, TN, USA
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Posted 13 Mar 2002 10:48 pm
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I'm not throwing rocks at anyone, just 'defending my faith'. I didn't get to hear Eddie Stubbs interview Johnny Bush Tuesday night on WSM. Did anybody record it?
L.N.
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Janice Brooks
From:
Pleasant Gap Pa
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Posted 4 May 2002 4:17 pm
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Bumping up as this is being rerun this weekend.
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Ray Jenkins
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Gold Canyon Az. U.S.A.
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Posted 6 May 2002 7:20 am
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I bet when you see cornbread on the table,you don't say would you please pass the rolls.Country is country,nothing else is.
Cornbread is cornbread,rolls are rolls.Ray
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