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Topic: Ricky Skaggs, on-tour; steel or non- steel? |
Chip Fossa
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Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 20 Oct 2001 10:06 am |
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Ricky Skaggs will be in Northampton, MA
on Dec.14, scheduled to play the Calvin Theatre.
Has anyone seen his latest troupe, or at least know who the band are and what they're
playing etc.? And of course, if he's traveling with a steeler?
Gonna get tickets next week. Thanks all.
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 20 Oct 2001 10:38 am
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| Chip, unless Ricky has changed in the last two weeks he's doing strictly Bluegrass. |
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kyle reid
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Posted 20 Oct 2001 11:11 am
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| He switched from great songs w/ great steel, to whiney banjer stuff! go figure! |
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Chip Fossa
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Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 20 Oct 2001 11:34 am
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Jack & Kyle..........is this the God's truth?
I'm taking a friend who just LOVES................"You've Got A Lover"....
gotta have steel, in at least this one, no?
Well, I may have to reconsider this event, after ewes
guise's testimony. Thanks fellas. |
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Larry Miller
From:
Dothan AL,USA
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kyle reid
From:
Butte,Mt.usa
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Posted 20 Oct 2001 2:05 pm
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| I'd say it Riles a lot more than it Rules! |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 20 Oct 2001 5:40 pm
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Guess he went back to "grass" 'cause he couldn't afford a good steel player!  |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 21 Oct 2001 2:28 am
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| I think "Mr Ego" thinks he's Bill Monroe. |
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Chip Fossa
From:
Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 21 Oct 2001 4:25 am
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Thanks Larry for the link, and everyone else here.
I checked out RS's website and it sure looks like he's now 101% bluegrass. I sure liked that album "Highways and Heartaches". That was
some great sounding stuff with Bruce Bouton
steeling the way.
I like bluegrass, OK, but the folks I'd be dragging along to this show I don't think would go for a whole night of BG.
I'm glad I found out about RS's latest sound-of-the-moment. I doubt, now, we'll be going to this
Dec.14 concert.
Thanks all,
Chip |
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Jason Stillwell
From:
Caddo, OK, USA
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Posted 21 Oct 2001 6:19 pm
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| Man, I've been about to wear out my tape of Highways & Heartaches in my old truck. I love every note of steel (and guitar and fiddle and banjo and mandolin) on this album!! I'm a little behind times, but I'm catching up. I have discovered a real appreciation for Lloyd Green's playing, mainly through the Skaggs stuff. He plays a couple of nice numbers on the Country Boy album, and I don't have the liner notes to H&H, but I think that must be Lloyd on Nothing Can Hurt You. It is some beautiful work, and can be compared to Hughey's playing on Lost in the Feeling. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 22 Oct 2001 2:46 am
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| The "Window Up Above" cut has Emmons on steel. |
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Chip Fossa
From:
Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 23 Oct 2001 6:30 am
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Thanks Jason, I stand corrected. Lloyd Green
does share some of the steel work on 'Highways & Heartaches'. My recall sure
ain't what it used to be. |
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Robert
From:
Chicago
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Posted 24 Oct 2001 10:04 am
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Chip:
That "Heartaches and Highways"-era Skaggs is great. Classic, even. But interviews I've heard with Skaggs himself indicate that the whole "country" period of his career was fairly pushed onto him by his label/management, etc. to sell records - the thought being that bluegrass wouldn't sell. As soon as he was contractually able, he re-organized and came (full circle, really) BACK to bluegrass. He may think of himself as the new Bill Monroe - why not? - that's how a lot of other people see him, too. And - his records are selling! There'll be no steel - but I saw him and his bluegrass band at The Opry a couple of years ago, and they were great. Your friends might enjoy it, after all.
Rob Yale [This message was edited by Robert on 24 October 2001 at 11:06 AM.] |
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Chip Fossa
From:
Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 24 Oct 2001 10:55 am
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Robert, thanks for your input on RS. Now you got me re-thinking. The best thing to do, I guess, is round up everyone and take a vote.
Actually, if I pressed enough, and talked it up as to how great it will be, even without steel, they all would more than likely go.
As a matter of fact, it could be a very therapeutic session for some of them. Just
the kind of input their lackluster music lives could use.
CF
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Jason Stillwell
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Caddo, OK, USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2001 6:21 pm
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What shocked me on the Country Boy album was the fact that the couple of songs that LG plays steel on (Rendezvous, Two Highways) greatly outshine Buddy's steel work on The Window Up Above. That's not to say that Buddy couldn't have outshone LG if given the same material, but as it stands, the Lloyd Green steel is awfully impressive. 
I keep forgetting to mention Bruce. Man, Bouton plays some great stuff, too. How about One Way Rider--unbelievable!![This message was edited by Jason Stillwell on 24 October 2001 at 07:24 PM.] |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 25 Oct 2001 1:47 am
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| Bruce Bouton's steel work on Highway 40 Blues, to me, is one of the "classic" steel breaks. That should ultimately put him in the SGHOF as Tom Brumley's Together Again licks did for him. |
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Deana Clark
From:
Beverly, Ohio., USA
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Posted 25 Oct 2001 6:33 am
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I wouldn't jump to conclusions about not going to the Ricky Skaggs concert because there is no steel. You go and see those boys one time, and they'll change your life. If you leave there dissapointed, I'd be suprised.
Yea, I miss the old stuff too, but atleast he's not doing pop. |
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Jeff Lampert
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queens, new york city
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Posted 25 Oct 2001 9:31 am
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| Bruce Bouton's steel work on Highway 40 Blues, to me, is one of the "classic" steel breaks. |
It sure is. Maybe not enough for the SGHOF, but enough to leave a permanent mark in the PSG community, that's for sure. |
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Jeff Lampert
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queens, new york city
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Posted 25 Oct 2001 10:07 am
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| That's not to say that Buddy couldn't have outshone LG if given the same material, but as it stands, the Lloyd Green steel is awfully impressive |
Buddy and Lloyd are icons of steel playing. Lloyd's specialty - commerical country playing. If you wanted a traditional shuffle, you give it to Buddy. If you want a commerical sound, it goes to Lloyd. IMHO, no one could back then, nor can now, play commerical steel like Lloyd.[This message was edited by Jeff Lampert on 25 October 2001 at 11:08 AM.] |
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Chip Fossa
From:
Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 25 Oct 2001 2:43 pm
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Deana, My sentiments exactly. I could listen
to it all night long. The fact is, all these friends know of Ricky is like the H & H CD...
and they love the heck out of that......but they know from past experiences that whatever music event I drag them to, skeptical they may be, but they always walk away with a big ole' grin. Like, "I Told You So". So that's it, we're back on.
The "Grassers" won out over the "Steelers".
Thanks for the input.
CF |
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Glenn Suchan
From:
Austin, Texas
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Posted 26 Oct 2001 12:58 pm
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Jeff: Buddy and Lloyd can and did do a job on most kinds of music that just about everyone else can only dream of doing. De' both some kinda hot pickers!
For some great "bluegrass" style steel pickin' by the Big E, check out the Flying Fish albums by John Hartford and Benny Martin. Makes me break out in a cold sweat....
Kyle, Donny, Jack, and Chip: As for bluegrass. Don't put it down as the "Appalacian backwoods cousin" of honky-tonk. As most everyone knows, the level of musicianship required to perform on the level of people like Del McCoury, Larry Sparks, Ralph Stanley and Clinch Mtn. Boys, or pickers like Sam Bush, Mark O'Connor, Jerry Douglas, Edgar Meyer, Stuart Duncan, Bela Fleck, and yes, Ricky Scaggs and Kentucky Thunder is par excellence. And they deserve respect for what they can accomplish with their chosen instrument. Most country music doesn't come close to the precision pickin' required for a complex "breakdown" at breakneck tempo. And I don't mean that to be a slam on country music. Country music ain't written that way.
OOOPS! I kinda got "off to the race" on this one. I'll get down offa da soap box now.... 
Keep on pickin'!
Glenn [This message was edited by Glenn Suchan on 26 October 2001 at 02:00 PM.] |
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kyle reid
From:
Butte,Mt.usa
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Posted 26 Oct 2001 5:34 pm
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| Well here we go & your not going to like it! Being this is a Steel Guitar forum, I dont think we need to be chastised for not liking Bluegrass! If we jumped on a Bluegrass forum & said only Steel players could play at breakneck speed, & the grassers could'nt, how would you try to answer that? I'll gaurantee that Tommy, Doug, Paul, & the list go's on forever, can play at whatever speed they want, then someone says the grassers won over the steelers, "not in this lifetime" now that the fued is on, I was trying to be respectful, a couple weeks ago, by not commenting on Ralph Stanley on the Opry, now that was Brutal & a couple people said he was great! Go Figure! of course they were grassers! Listen to Skaggs 20yrs ago & compare it to what he's into now! "One end of the spectrum to the other" and how about Deana, saying "at least he's not doing Pop! Wow, what a cover! Time to take a poll, I'll start with one in a row for Steel. Dont ya just love me? P.S. My Grass is Green! kr |
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Chip Fossa
From:
Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 26 Oct 2001 8:03 pm
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WELL! I'll keep it goin'. You guys/gals
are misreading me. I've only kept reposting
just to keep this thing alive. I love all music [well, except for RAP & OPERA].
In 1976, serendipiciously, I found myself in London. Me and a friend went to see the Winter Olymics in Innsbruk, Austria, and we went for a month, had time to kill, and wound up at the end of the journey in London.
The last week we were in Europe [London] we
found out Emmylou Harris and the Hot Band was playing at the Albert Hall.......we got tickets......arrived on time.......got floored by the show......and later, back in the states, realized, Ricky Skaggs was a memeber of that hot band.
I guess the point I'm trying to make, is that concert was a great mishmash of straight-up country, straight-up bluegrass,
and , I guess, straight up country rock.
I don't know really about ya'll, but I really
find great things in all kinds of music...
it makes me grin.
CF
[This message was edited by CHIP FOSSA on 26 October 2001 at 09:05 PM.] |
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Joe Casey
From:
Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)
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Posted 29 Oct 2001 5:46 am
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I would just add that some of the bluegrass pickers are among some of the best musicians I have ever heard. It may not be my favorite type of music but it is a good break from my normal everyday listening. Look at the popularity of "O brother where art thou". Northhampton always supports good music. This show won't disapoint anyone.
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CJC
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Chip Fossa
From:
Monson, MA, USA (deceased)
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Posted 29 Oct 2001 5:55 am
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Absolutely true, Joe. Northampton, since
the completed renovation of the old Calvin
Theatre, has gotten even better for music, ten-fold; if that's possible.
Thanks for your input, Joe.
CF |
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