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Mike Perlowin


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Los Angeles CA
Post  Posted 15 Oct 2004 2:25 pm    
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I have an MSA D-12 that I don't really like very much. The guitar is heavy anbd awkward and although the C6 neck is OK, but the E9 neck just doesn't feel right. I'd much rather have another S-12.

I'm thinking of selling it, but my question is, would it be worth more if I took the back neck off and turned it into and S-D 12? either with an extended E9 or a universal tuning?
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Frank Parish

 

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Nashville,Tn. USA
Post  Posted 15 Oct 2004 4:00 pm    
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Mike,
Why not experiment with a new tuning, say a Sacred Steel tuning E7? I wish I had a single 12 or even a S-10 to give that tuning a try after hearing so much about it seeing RR last Saturday night. Maybe a hybrid of some sort??
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Mike Perlowin


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Los Angeles CA
Post  Posted 15 Oct 2004 4:13 pm    
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Frank, The problem is that I don't like the guitar itself. It's heavy and awkward and just doesn't feel right. Putting another tuning on it won't change that.

I'll probobly keep it just to woodshed on the C6.
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Jim Ives


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Los Angeles, California, USA
Post  Posted 15 Oct 2004 4:55 pm    
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Mike,
Buy a Mullen.
But then I am biased!
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Sonny Priddy

 

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Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 15 Oct 2004 5:06 pm    
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There Are Some Light Wt. Guitars Out There That Are Great. SONNY.

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Paul Dittmeier

 

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Jeffersonville, Indiana, USA
Post  Posted 15 Oct 2004 5:06 pm    
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Mike, I think you should give a Derby Steel a try !
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Jim Cohen


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Philadelphia, PA
Post  Posted 15 Oct 2004 5:13 pm    
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Mike, your question was 'would it be worth more...' I tend to think that it would be worth less (but not "worthless") if you tore off part of the guitar and "converted" it into an S-12, but it might sell faster since more people are looking for an S12 than a D12. Still, you'd probably have to discount it pretty well, as I believe more players would rather get a guitar that started its life as an S12 than one that was "demoted" (okay, "converted") to an S12. But I could be all wet; wouldn't be the first time. (Well, maybe the first time I admitted it... )
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Jim Phelps

 

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Mexico City, Mexico
Post  Posted 15 Oct 2004 5:54 pm    
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I think Jim is right, but don't forget that despite the guitar being worth a little less (and selling faster) you can also sell the removed parts from the other neck, that compensates for the loss (if any) of value. In fact I've just done that very thing to my MSA D-12 but am keeping the SD-12.....it took all of about an hour to find a buyer (and more in the wings) for the parts, and besides that, old MSA D-12's are not really very high-priced on the used steel market anyway...

[This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 15 October 2004 at 07:01 PM.]

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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 15 Oct 2004 7:35 pm    
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Jim. Check out Ebay # 3754378370 and see what kind of prices people ask for the MSA D12!

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Jim Phelps

 

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Mexico City, Mexico
Post  Posted 15 Oct 2004 7:48 pm    
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Holy guacamole! Hey Bill, looks like I sold my extra parts too cheap!

Well, I'm sure it's worth every penny, after all it was custom-made for George “Robbie” Robbins!!! Sorry but I don't know who that is... Gee, Bobbe was going to sell one of BE's steels for less than that...but then it turned out..... never mind!

Funny too, it looks exactly like my off-the-rack MSA that I only paid $1000 for...except this one has Super Sustain pickups...that must be why it's worth $3000 more than mine!

I take it back, Mike...our MSA's are worth thousands.....would Ebay lie?

[This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 15 October 2004 at 08:55 PM.]

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Billy Woo

 

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Los Angeles, CA, USA
Post  Posted 19 Oct 2004 6:20 am    
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Mike

I also had a MSA D-12 and sold it for the same reasons you mention, I think I got $1200 for it here on the Forum anyway you know what Im playing at the moment..Heavy is not the correct word, Cumbersome and Car damaging is more specific to my case..

Bronco Billy
Zumsteel U-12
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ajm

 

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Los Angeles
Post  Posted 19 Oct 2004 6:20 pm    
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Not to sound rude or blunt, but I'm having trouble understanding how an altered and somewhat vintage instrument be worth "more" when it has been drastically altered like you suggest? If I wanted a "different" guitar, then I'd sell that one to someone who wants it and get the instrument I really want. But to each their own; it's a free country.

If altering vintage instruments increases their value, then I'm going to:

a) Chop down that original '65 Twin Reverb cabinet out in the garage and make a head out of it,

b) install a Floyd Rose on that worthless old 1954 Fender Strat, and

c) fix up that faded sunburst finish on that junky old 1959 Les Paul and paint it a really stage flashy shade of flourescent pink.


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Mike Perlowin


From:
Los Angeles CA
Post  Posted 19 Oct 2004 6:30 pm    
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Artie, what you say makes sense, but apparently a lot of people do not care for MSA D-12s, and would prefer to have an S-12 on a double frame.

I love my 2 MSA S-12s, but somehow this guitar is just not the same.

Please E-mail me woth your contact information. Since we both live in L.A we ought to be able to E-mail each other, if for no other reason than for me to inform you about the next L.A. steel jam (which will take place in February.)
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Jim Phelps

 

From:
Mexico City, Mexico
Post  Posted 19 Oct 2004 7:32 pm    
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Funny Artie, but for one thing: Early '70's MSA's are NOT '54 Strats, '59 Les Pauls, or '65 Twins.

[This message was edited by Jim Phelps on 19 October 2004 at 08:35 PM.]

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