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Topic: Dunlop 919 & Broz-o-phonic |
Steve Pierce
From: San Rafael, California, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2003 12:10 pm
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I have a Dunlop 919 bar and I was wondering if the Broz-O-phonic bar was pretty much the same bar.
The 919 is 3/4" in diameter X 2&3/4" long. It weighs 4&1/2 ounces and is made of stainless steel.
I have searched the web for info on the Broz-o-phonic, but I can't find the dimensions anywhere.
Any answers and opinions would be greatly apprechiated.
Thanks
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Russ Young
From: Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2003 12:19 pm
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Steve:
My Broz-o-phonic is stainless steel, 3/4" in diameter and 2-7/8" long. I haven't got a really good small scale, but it weighs approximately 4 oz. |
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Jesse Pearson
From: San Diego , CA
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Posted 2 Feb 2003 1:10 pm
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I modified the weight of my Dunlop 919 with advice Rick Aiello gave me. I melted down some lead fishing weights and poured it into the hollowed bar. I then machined it back to its original concave shape and put a thin layer of clear silicon over the lead to prevent lead poisoning and for added traction. It works great now and I don't have to push down on the bar on the bass strings like I did before. [This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 06 February 2003 at 08:05 AM.] |
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Russ Young
From: Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2003 2:08 pm
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Jesse: Do you know how much it weighs now? |
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Rick Aiello
From: Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2003 2:15 pm
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Y'all be careful with "molten Pb" ... It will "burn you to the bone" if you're not careful ...
When I did this the first time back in the early 80's ... I used "slit shot" sinkers ... and just drove them in with the head of a nail ... Pb is real soft and can be packed in pretty tight ... although you won't get the mass Jesse got ...
I do the same with my Red Rajahs ...
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www.horseshoemagnets.com[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 11 February 2003 at 12:58 PM.] |
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Jesse Pearson
From: San Diego , CA
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Posted 2 Feb 2003 2:37 pm
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It feels a little heavier than my Stevenson bar weight, of which I have an early one. The big improvement that I can see, is it floats easily on the strings with minimal downward hand pressure and lighter dampening behind the bar. The sustain is good and I can do reverse slants easier because of this fact. Thanks Rick...! [This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 02 February 2003 at 03:16 PM.] |
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Russ Young
From: Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2003 3:09 pm
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Jesse: Do you know how much your Stevenson weighs? And please don't say "about the same as my Dunlop 919" ...
Maybe I should go at it this way: Rick, do you know how much your Dunlop weighs? |
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Jesse Pearson
From: San Diego , CA
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Posted 2 Feb 2003 3:20 pm
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Russ, I don't have a scale, I did edit my previous post if that helps. Maybe around 5 1/2 to near 6 ounces? [This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 03 February 2003 at 09:40 AM.] |
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Rick Aiello
From: Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2003 4:57 pm
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I got mine to 145 grams from 120 g (Isn't it embarrasing that I knew that off the top of my head) ...
[This message was edited by Rick Aiello on 02 February 2003 at 05:55 PM.] |
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Steve Pierce
From: San Rafael, California, USA
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Posted 3 Feb 2003 9:42 am
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So just to sum up, the Dunlop 919 and the Broz-o-phonic are essentially the same bar give or take an 1/8 of an inch?
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John Kavanagh
From: Kentville, Nova Scotia, Canada * R.I.P.
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Posted 5 Feb 2003 8:49 am
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I had a Broz-o-phonic, and they're a beautifully machined quality bar. Whatever the weight is, it felt heavy enough and the Dunlop I tried didn't , so it's heavier if anything. I measured mine at 2 7/8" x 3/4" too. It's a tad short for 8 strings, but I gave it to a friend who plays 6-strings and he loves it. |
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David Siegler
From: Mill Valley, CA USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2003 10:47 am
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My digital postage scale reports that my Broz-O-Phonic bar weighs 5.7 ounces. |
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Steve Honum
From: Oregon, USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2003 12:33 pm
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I have both and prefer the Brozophonic. It's a little longer and heavier. The length seems about right for my hand. The Dunlop 919 is a little short, but maybe a tad easier to shift smoothly into a reverse slant. On the packaging for the Brozophonic it claims it was modeled after Sol Hoopii's bar??
Haere mai,
Steve H.
S8A6 |
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Michael Miller
From: Virginia
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Posted 5 Feb 2003 12:43 pm
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I also prefer the Broz-o-phonic. I got one some time ago from Elderly but they no longer show on their web site. Where else are they available? |
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Russ Young
From: Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 5 Feb 2003 1:25 pm
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David: Thanks for clarifying the Broz-o-phonic's weight ... I guess I'll throw away my postal scale.
Michael: You can order one from Homespun Tapes. [This message was edited by Russ Young on 05 February 2003 at 01:25 PM.] [This message was edited by Russ Young on 05 February 2003 at 01:26 PM.] |
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Andy Volk
From: Boston, MA
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Posted 5 Feb 2003 1:45 pm
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I prefer the John Pierce Thermo-Cryonic bar. No, I don't know the dimensions or the weight but it's slightly heavier and longer than a Dunlop Jerry Byrd bar. The new Black Phoenix is a nice bar too. If you blink while playing a Ric Bakelite the Phoenix almost disapears. |
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Steve Pierce
From: San Rafael, California, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2003 9:43 am
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Is the Dunlop 919 the Jerry Byrd Bar?
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Russ Young
From: Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2003 10:59 am
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The Dunlop web site refers to all of their stainless steel tonebars as being "Designed specifically for Jerry Byrd, Premier Hawaiian Guitar Player." That includes the 919 ... as well as their 11.5 oz. sitar bar. |
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Jesse Pearson
From: San Diego , CA
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Posted 8 Feb 2003 11:59 am
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Steve, the Dunlop 919 is the same dimensions that JB recommends in his instructional course( 2 3/4" x 3/4" ). If I was gonna call any bar the JB bar, it would be this one. |
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George Keoki Lake
From: Edmonton, AB., Canada
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Posted 18 Feb 2003 8:55 pm
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Jesse, can you still catch fish with it ? |
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Jesse Pearson
From: San Diego , CA
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Posted 18 Feb 2003 9:34 pm
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[This message was edited by Jesse Pearson on 18 February 2003 at 09:44 PM.] |
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Jesse Pearson
From: San Diego , CA
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Posted 18 Feb 2003 9:36 pm
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Well, yes indeed Keoki, it's great for reeling in the much sought after "hula fish taco"! But, my girl friend has me on a strict diet now-a-days. |
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Jesse Pearson
From: San Diego , CA
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Posted 9 Mar 2003 3:58 pm
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I just wieghed my modified dunlop 919 with the melted lead added to it on a digital scale and it wieghs 5.15 ounces. |
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