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Tony Chavez
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Belen,New Mexico,USA
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Posted 17 Feb 2001 7:58 pm |
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Just wondering if any of you guy's do this polka tune,especially you guy's in Texas.What kind of fills do you or what does you steel break sound like.Any Tab or advice on this tune would be great.Thanx Tony
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Chas Holman
From:
10 miles outa Lone Star, TX - USA
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Posted 19 Feb 2001 12:45 pm
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Tony - Thanks for bringing this up (I've been too embarrassed to mention it). The band I'm with (and I'd venture to say ANY Texas dancehall band) gets a request for this 'enigma' about once a month. I haven't been able to locate Tab, Audio or anything relative to this tune and, consequently, my portion sounds more like "Under the Single Sparrow". I've been told that "most" steelers take the bridge portion of the song as their solo....doesn't help me much as I'm just as ineffective there as on the verse parts.
I do know this - it's a John Phillips Sousa composition and is considered a 'march' - though 'polka' probably fits just as well.
Come on, "TAB KINGS" - this makes TWO of us who now REALLY need your HELP..!!
-Chas
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Dennis Voges
From:
San Antonio, Texas
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Posted 21 Feb 2001 9:10 pm
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Hi Guys
Thought I would just let you know that I have a video by Tommy Roots & Carson Wells called E9 Bandstand instrumentals. This video has Tommy playing Under The Double Eagle and also I have the tabulature to the song the way he plays it on the video.
I would be happy to send a photocopy to someone who could post it on the forum as I don't know how to do it. Hope this info helps.
Keep Steelin
Dennis |
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Jeff Lampert
From:
queens, new york city
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Posted 22 Feb 2001 5:11 am
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| I'm not exactly sure what you guys are looking for. The song is a 16-step, sort of like Rocky Top, Sin Wagon, Orange Blossam Special, I'm Married To A Waitress, etc. etc. The usual playing style for a song like this is to plant yourself on a fret, and do eighth-note runs up and down the strings, while mashing the A,B pedals. For example in the key of C, you would mostly use frets 3 and 8. You can also, do some bar movement if you can handle the speed. You can also try playing the melody combined with the eighth-note runs, ala Lloyd Green. I'm not sure what you need. |
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Chas Holman
From:
10 miles outa Lone Star, TX - USA
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Posted 22 Feb 2001 6:04 am
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Dennis,
I've sent you an e-mail with my address, fax number and a toll free number you can reach me on. I'll gladly post the tab here and pass it on to Ricky D. for his and Graham's Rebel Site.
Do you know where I could get the video that you mentioned..? Sounds like something that would be very helpful.
Jeff - I understand where you're coming from, but I'd like to know (and I assume Tony's question was) how the song "should" be played  if I can learn that, then maybe I won't get smacked on the noggin' by our bandleader's fiddle bow for NOT playing strict melody...! 
-Chas |
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Tony Chavez
From:
Belen,New Mexico,USA
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Posted 22 Feb 2001 9:05 pm
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| Hey Chas,you took the words right out of my mouth.The version I've heard done,was by Johnny Gimble{The Texas Fiddle Collection}and Roy Clark{Live}and they both were good.I've never heard it with Steel in it,but I know it would sound good.Thanx a bunch guy's |
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Don Sulesky
From:
Citrus County, FL, Orig. from MA & NH
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Posted 26 Feb 2001 6:19 am
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Herb Remongton does a fine job on this song on his Pure Remington Steel album on Stoneway Records. No pedals of course.
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Al Marcus
From:
Cedar Springs,MI USA (deceased)
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Posted 28 Feb 2001 8:23 pm
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| I used to play that as "Under the double Eagle polka". Verse and bridge. It does make a nice polka and people all seem to like it....al |
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Chas Holman
From:
10 miles outa Lone Star, TX - USA
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Posted 2 Mar 2001 9:03 am
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Hey Tony..!
I think we're finally gonna get what we need, thanks in large part to Dennis Voges' efforts. He sent me the tab and the recording and I've been able to work out most of the song. Trouble is - the tab is in a bit of a different format than that which is used here. So, I'm going to have to retype the entire song prior to posting it. Hope to get to it this next week as I'm gigging this weekend - and then there's that "other" job (you know, the one that actually SUPPORTS my steel guitar habit).
Also, Dennis and I were worried about using the material without permission so I've been on a quest to find the originators of R&W Productions. Dennis informed me that Tommy Roots had passed away some years back but I was (finally) able to locate Carson Wells. He now lives in Kerrville, has just finished building a new house and will soon be building custom steel guitars again. His response to us using the material on the forum (as well as Rebel's WebSite) was a resounding, "Hell, YES..! If that old material will help out some of these guys trying to learn - by all means post it anywhere you'd like..!"
The only other 'glitch' is that the pedal & lever setup on Carson's axe is quite a bit more elaborate than my simple 8+4 D-10, so I'll have to 'simplify' as I go to make it more useable to more players.
BTW, Dennis - I'm sending you a little something to offset postage, tape and copying expense. Thanks for all your help, buddy..!
Tab posting coming soon - to a Forum near you..!
-Chas
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Tony Chavez
From:
Belen,New Mexico,USA
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Posted 2 Mar 2001 9:23 am
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| Hey Chas,thanks a million.You guy's on this forum are top notch.When I grow up I want to be just like you guy's.Tony |
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Dennis Voges
From:
San Antonio, Texas
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Posted 2 Mar 2001 7:00 pm
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Hey Chas
Glad you could figure out the tab & hoped you enjoyed the video. Maybe someday you can post the rest of the songs from the video. I would be happy to make a copy of the tape & tab for any one who would like it for the cost of the tabe and copying.
Always glad to help out my fellow steel players any way i can. Chas Im glad you found carson Wells & gave us permission.
Keep on Steelin
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David Weaver
From:
Aurora, CO USA
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Posted 3 Mar 2001 9:46 pm
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I'm just sure that Dick Meis does this song both on guitar and steel. Look for him if you are going to the Dallas show. He has a booth. When I talked to him the other day he said that he would be next to the Fessenden booth.
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