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Kevin Ruddell

 

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Toledo Ohio USA
Post  Posted 16 Nov 2002 6:33 am    
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Do any forum members know what tunings was used in " the old days " when players used the tri cones for western swing and hawaiaan ?
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Dana Duplan

 

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Ramona, CA
Post  Posted 16 Nov 2002 6:39 am    
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I know a lot of them used a low or high bass G or A. If you are intersted in this style you need Bob Brozman's "Traditional Hawaiian Guitar" instructional video. He uses the low bass G tuning. I believe Sol Hoopii also used the C#m tuning. I've been using the high bass G with my group and it works out fine for a variety of vintage styles. Maybe when I start using the bottom two strings more, the low vs high bass thing might be an issue?
DD
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mikey


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New Jersey
Post  Posted 16 Nov 2002 9:29 am    
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Mine is tuned C6, but I think a lot of western swing guys went w/A6. But traditionally the old hawaiian guys I know say Low Bass A EAEAC#E, but not for western swing...Don Helms would say probably E6 EG#BC#EG# (all low to High)
Mike
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 16 Nov 2002 10:04 am    
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I started out playing Hawaiian music about 50 years ago and it was all done in A high bass tuning: AC#EAC#E, low to high. And my instructor was an old vaudeville performer that was even on the same program with Will Rogers. He also had a degree in music from the Chicago Conservatory of Music.
Erv
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Paul Warnik

 

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Illinois,USA
Post  Posted 17 Nov 2002 6:49 am    
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Erv N-the High A tuning is what I was taught on my Hawaiian guitar teacher too-but I don't like tuning the old Nationals up that high for too much pressure on the old cones-so I usually use regular G or E
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Jeanne Yeagley

 

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Barrington, Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 23 Nov 2002 9:42 am    
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Hi Kevin, I don't know the answer for sure (I don't even play yet)but could it be C#m9 or E13? I just saw the band BR549 an their music is definitely in the category you are asking about. Sounds Hawaiian and Swingy. Their steel player's name is Don Herron. His guitar is a vintage National with 2 side by side necks, no pedals or levers, eight strings per neck. I asked him and he said they are tuned to these tunings. If you have not heard BR549 then by all means check them out. They have 5 or 6 albums out. Listen to "Crazy Arms", "Pain, Pain Go Away", "Cherokee Boogie", "There Goes My Love". Even if you don't find that the tuning is what you were looking for I think you will love this music, but if Don Herron plays in the same tuning you will be tuning to then you might enjoy playing some of their songs, too.
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Kevin Ruddell

 

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Toledo Ohio USA
Post  Posted 24 Nov 2002 12:06 am    
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Thank you fellow forum members for posting your help on this
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