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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 22 Dec 2024 5:00 am    
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I gave myself an early Christmas present …



Ermanno Pasqualato made this beautiful B14 bronze bar …

https://weissenbornguitar.com/herrmann-accessories/

I have a lot of bars … this one just became my favorite. A work of art !!!

20 mm x 76 mm (just a bit bigger than 3/4” in diameter and a little short of 3” long)

It’s got a very rich tone and excellent sustain … being 200 grams.
Mr. Green

The only downside was it had a flat tail end … I used a Dremel, conical grinding stone and some cutting fluid … to give it a cup-like indent for reverse slanting. Cut easy, polished up nicely … very smooth !!!
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Jim Bloomfield

 

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Colorado, USA
Post  Posted 22 Dec 2024 7:58 am    
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Looks good! Do you notice any difference in tone or feel?
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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 22 Dec 2024 8:48 am    
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Compared to my JB size BJS bar (hard chromed, heat treated tool steel) and my Pearse Hawaiian bar (cryogenically treated 400 series stainless steel) … both of which are similar in size (2 7/8” x 3/4”) …

The bronze bar has richer tone and more sustain … it’s almost 50 grams heavier than either of the above.

I have been using the above mentioned bars along with my JB sized Zirconia bar the most lately … the tone of the Zirc is similar to the bronze … but the Zirc is 100 grams lighter … quicker to maneuver, but the sustain isn’t in the same ball park

All in all … it’s very high quality and very attractive Cool


* I am not affiliated with Herrmann Guitars … the bar was purchased at full price
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Mike Neer


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NJ
Post  Posted 22 Dec 2024 1:08 pm    
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Very cool, Rick! Would love to see how you Dremeled that. Did you have the bar secured in a vise or was the Dremel stationary? Would also love to see the bit and the final result.
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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 22 Dec 2024 5:45 pm    
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I wrapped the bar up for protection … put it in the vise, backside pointing up … Dremel-ed it … then put it on the wheel to polish … 🤠
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Bill Groner


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QUAKERTOWN, PA
Post  Posted 22 Dec 2024 8:31 pm    
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Nice job Rick for free handing it! You got that radial margin pretty uniform. Smile
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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 22 Dec 2024 11:33 pm    
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It looks nicer in real life …





For all of us “lathe-less” folks … Laughing



As beautiful sounding/looking as this bar is … for me … not having an indent or better yet a “cup” on the backside … was a non-starter and this had to be done
Mr. Green

Hint: keep a puddle of cutting fluid in the indent at all times and run the Dremel at a slow speed …
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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 23 Dec 2024 11:53 am    
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Here’s a short segment of “Akaka Falls” using the new bronze bar …

https://on.soundcloud.com/ieP7toiEmWgNFkUY8
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Cody Farwell


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Sunland, CA
Post  Posted 23 Dec 2024 1:50 pm    
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Sounds great Rick. I ordered one last night after hearing it was ~200g !
I'll probably drill out a small indent as well to help with slants.
Did the tail end have a sharp corner, or was it somewhat rounded? It was hard to tell from photos on the website.
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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 23 Dec 2024 2:07 pm    
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It’s a pretty sharp transition from the side of the bar to the bottom … maybe just a hair of “easing” …
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Rick Aiello


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Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 27 Dec 2024 1:35 am    
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It was quite the Hawaiian steel guitar Christmas. My kids got me a pair of Ron Landis’ Sterling Silver engraved fingerpicks & a matching Sterling Silver thumb pick (first metal thumb pick I’ve liked) .

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Mike Neer


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NJ
Post  Posted 27 Dec 2024 6:48 am    
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Very nice, Rick!

I took your advice on creating an indent for my thumb on a few of my bars with flat ends. I wasn’t able to center it as perfectly as you, but I have about 7 or 8 more bars to do and it will probably get easier with each one now that I know what to expect. Also got some jeweler’s rouge to smooth out some scratches/imperfections. Thanks for the tips!



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Bill Groner


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QUAKERTOWN, PA
Post  Posted 27 Dec 2024 9:56 am    
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Rick Aiello wrote:
It was quite the Hawaiian steel guitar Christmas. My kids got me a pair of Ron Landis’ Sterling Silver engraved fingerpicks & a matching Sterling Silver thumb pick (first metal thumb pick I’ve liked) .



Rick, you need a wedding ring to match!

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HowardR


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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
Post  Posted 28 Dec 2024 10:46 am    
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Wow.....cool stuff.......now all you need is a Nudie Western Shirt.....if you get that, please take a photo of you with a lap steel on Gloria (Chrissy's horse)...... Laughing
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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 29 Dec 2024 10:13 am    
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Always appreciate a good “Nudie” Embarassed

Nice job Mike … I’ve done 4 total … the bronze, a BJS, a Pearse and a Zirconia bar






The BJS was the toughest … hardened tool steel . The Pearse took along time too … 400 series stainless.

The JB sized Zirctone required diamond studded grinders … the aluminum oxide ones wouldn’t phase it … needed to be continually cooled with water throughout the cutting process … I was very nervous, but it came out great … Mr. Green
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Rick Aiello


From:
Berryville, VA USA
Post  Posted 1 Jan 2025 12:34 am    
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Here’s “Pua Paoakalani” (thanks Mike Holland) using the bronze bar and the silver picks …

https://on.soundcloud.com/KMNNKmzEWRHmiB5j7
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