Has Anybody Ever heard About That Album?

Walter Stettner · From: Vienna, Austria

Another mystery (at least to me!)

Found this album by "Wile E. Tucker & Band" on the Internet - I didn't find any additional info except that it is from 2022. Anybody know who is behind "Wile E. Tucker & Band"? 15 tracks of well-known songs that never were used much as instrumentals but some interesting steel for sure. I don't even have a guess who the player is (some of the tracks use different steel parts behind the leading melody).

Here is the link:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l7K54hHGVjKkxwfPM4IpWNkzOYyrb6ZYQ

Maybe the steeler is even here on the Forum! Wink

Any info welcome and appreciated!

Kind Regards, Walter
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Dan Kelly · From: Boston, MA

Hey Walter!

To me, at least, it sounds suspiciously like AI.

There are a couple of telltale signs, IMHO. The first telltale is the uninspired selection of songs.

Another is just the sound of the playing... very mechanical, again, IMHO. Listen to "On Top of Old Smokey." Would anyone really play like that. And if they would pick this song to record, wouldn't they want to work in some really imaginative stuff to justify their song selection?

Third is the lack of information on the band. If these songs were done by real people, it would have been a lot of work. As a result, people would want the recognition and would want to lever the production of this music to get gigs, and streaming royalties.

I will admit that the steel sound sounds good. It has the growl I would expect to hear from an Emmons PP. Not bad... just not real.

Just a few thoughts from the edge.
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Walter Stettner · From: Vienna, Austria

Hi Dan,

Thanks so much for your input...I have a strong feeling that you hit the nail right on the head! I am still old school and haven't paid much attention to AI, but your thoughts made me think. After reading your post, I contacted a local friend of mine (he is very good with computers, also plays a little steel) and he also immediately thought of AI. He then showed me what AI can do. He put a few words together (only words, no music) and used AI to create a full song. Took about two minutes and the result was amazing and scary! You can create songs in varioues styles (he did it in Country and Jazz), choose a vocal style (female/male), add instruments and much more. At first listening, it is hard to tell if this is a real record or just technically created. Kinda scary! Shocked

I hope this is not the future of music! Crying or Very sad

Thanks again!

Kind Regards, Walter
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Dan Kelly · From: Boston, MA

Hi Walter,

Is AI the future of music? Who knows? Maybe from the standpoint of the commercial side... the make money side, it could be. Using the current business model, one can see the profit opportunity of generating a big hit using AI and not having to pay a song writer, performer, musicians, et cetera.

Maybe we will see a mix of, say, 70% AI content and 30% human content on given songs, I don't know. I believe there will always be a demand for live music and performance. How much AI penetrates that, at the end of the day, will be interesting to see.

Maybe there will be a revolt against AI music. I mean, IMHO, it is pretty demeaning for the emotional human response to music to be called up by algorithms and a computer instead of the expression of a real person's response to human experience and our response to the human condition. AI will get better and better. But will it ever really reach the pinnacle of human expression found in the works of Muddy Waters, Howlin Wolf, Billie Holiday, Bessie Smith, Maurice Ravel, Mahler, Debussy, Jimi Hendricks, and on and on. I just can't see an auditorium full of people flicking their bics after the completion of a piece generated by "Soundful." And notice that the name of the most popular AI Music Generator is "Soundful" and not "Soulful."

There is just something so exciting to see and hear someone with real talent and hard work putting out music that evokes our admiration and brings a tear to our eye. AI will never replace that. But, will the "audience" be dumbed down to the point that lowest common denominator is the standard of acceptance? Well, it's been done before.

/rant off
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Kenny Davis · From: Great State of Oklahoma

Some of the backing track sounds AI generated, but about the time I heard a bass lick on the Don Williams song it sounded like a human playing.

I don't think the steel is AI at all. If it is, we might as well sell our stuff.

My guess it was recorded "over the pond" by the way they spelled favorites.
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Clyde Mattocks · From: Kinston, North Carolina, USA

I'n somewhere between believing and not. It sounds suspicously mechanical, yet if someone set out to make steel guitar elevator music, that's what they did.
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Don R Brown · From: Rochester, New York, USA

Interesting. I just came across this one tonight prowling YouTube. No steel, but a fairly nice country-ish song. It just seemed "plain vanilla" to me. Scrolled down, and found "How this content was made: Altered or synthetic content. Sounds or visuals were significantly edited or digitally generated"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M22Wh2Zuthg
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Dan Kelly · From: Boston, MA

That song could be a hit. IMHO, that is a good song and it is well produced.

I am surprised to read the detail included in YouTube's disclosure of "use of altered or synthetic content." They are very specific and claim that by labeling content as AI Generated, YouTube aims "to reduce the risk of harm to viewers." I will have to think about that. I am not sure I could pinpoint what harm there would be. Viewers could be mislead into thinking that the content was real, but "harmed?" I dunno.
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