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Topic: Rare Jerry Byrd Live Video - 1960s, Surprise Waltz |
Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Rick Aiello
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Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2024 10:07 am |
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Wow …
HowardR (aka Howard Pineapple) owns that Fender now … he brought it to HSGA’s Joliet Convention one year … everyone had fun taking their turn playing it … 🤠 |
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Brooks Montgomery
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Idaho, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2024 11:18 am
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Wow! Smoooooth…..
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Bill Leff
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Santa Cruz, CA, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2024 11:38 am
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| What are the notes in the tuning? |
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Rick Aiello
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Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2024 12:01 pm
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Hi to lo
E B G# F# E D B G# |
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Nic Neufeld
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Kansas City, Missouri
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Posted 12 Dec 2024 1:05 pm
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What sort of Fender is that exactly? Doesn't look like a depedalled 400, nor like a Deluxe / S8 Stringmaster type. Something custom?
EDIT seek and ye shall find:
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=326212&sid=25e5eaff93d27a53d436d6b6848ff3ee
Definitely looks like the MkII 400 was the basis for the custom design. Same pickups, short scale, same basic body structure albeit apparently without the metal frame. As it says in the other thread he didn't love the Fender sound and I'm kind of with him, my 400 isn't my favorite sounding guitar. (A lot of that is user error though.)
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Posted 12 Dec 2024 1:52 pm
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Rick, I knew you'd enjoy watching that video. I remember when you posted your recording of Surprise Waltz here a few years ago. That sent me back to the woodshed trying to figure it out! There was some tab posted for it, or maybe I bought the tab from Scotty's... can't remember. I managed to play a passable version of it, and then I tried it on pedal steel. It's much easier to play on pedal steel, no slants required... but it doesn't sound as good on pedal steel. Something is lost when you take away the slants, sound-wise and in the visual. It's less interesting on the pedal steel IMO.
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Hi to lo
E B G# F# E D B G# |
🤔 I just realized that the top 7 strings of Jerry's E9 are exactly the same as pedal steel E9 tuning, strings 4 through 10.
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PSG JB E9
F#
D#
G#
E ------ E
B ------ B
G# ----- G#
F# ----- F#
E ------ E
D ------ D
B ------B
G#
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I guess that makes sense because the "Admirable Byrd" album was basically a demonstration of pedal steel styles/sounds on a non-pedal guitar.
I have always thought that the E9 pedal steel tuning is not a very good tuning for non-pedal steel. It was designed to use with foot pedals that allow convenient chord changes 1, 4, 5, 6m, etc on all 4 string grips by simply stomping on the A & B pedals. When you take the pedals away, those changes are lost, and the tuning is not the easiest non-pedal tuning to play, in my humble opinion. Of course, Jerry Byrd could play a clothesline and make it sound good.
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Ron Hogan
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Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 12 Dec 2024 2:01 pm
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| Terrific. I enjoyed that. |
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Jim Mckay
From:
New Zealand
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Posted 12 Dec 2024 8:40 pm
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Jerry played a lot of Hawaiian songs in that E9th tuning.
This is one of them. " Kawohikukapulani"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5d9w2d6nQo
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Rick Aiello
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Berryville, VA USA
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Doug Beaumier
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Northampton, MA
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Roger Fletcher
From:
United Kingdom
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Posted 18 Dec 2024 11:20 pm
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| He also used forward slant major triads on strings 2, 3 and 5. By inserting the F# between the E and G# strings, he ensured that this slant would be in tune in Just Intonation. |
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Andy Volk
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Boston, MA
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Posted 19 Dec 2024 4:21 am
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Thanks for posting, Doug. Quite a JB find and interesting tune that builds up the music tension before releasing it on the I chord. I've done a number of 6-string arrangements in this tuning including "Blues Guaranteed", where you can really hear the sound of the E9th tuning in the strum sections.
https://vimeo.com/150540698
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Doug Beaumier
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