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Topic: Fender 1000 rods and linkages needed! |
Victor Elliott
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Hawaii, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2023 9:59 am |
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| Hey everyone! I’m new to the pedal steel all together and was gifted a Fender 1000 from about 1956 (s/n 00191). Anyways, it did not come with any rods. I have the pedals, but I also don’t have the ball and hook piece that attaches to them. If anyone has any leads or extras that won’t cost the world, please let me know! It once belonged to Johnny “Pancake” Norriss, and would love for it to make music again. Thanks! |
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Tony Oresteen
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Georgia, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2023 5:02 am
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I would contact Jim Palenscar at Steel Guitars of North County
https://steelguitars.me/home_page.html
Jim is a member here and should be able to make them.
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Tony
Newnan, GA
Too many guitars, not enough time to play
'72 Sho-Bud 6139, '71 Marlen 210
'78 Fender Stringmaster Quad black
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Victor Elliott
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Hawaii, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2023 5:25 am
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Thanks, Tony! I’ll be sure to check out that option. I really appreciate you taking the time to read and reply.
-Victor |
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Matthew Lutton
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Indiana, USA
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Posted 11 Dec 2024 6:26 am Any luck? Looking for two 1000 pedal rods also!
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Did you happen to find anyone to make these linkages/rods as I’m in the same boat, I have everything except two pedal rods for my double neck 1000. They are about 32-33” long if memory serves and have the hook at one end, and a barrel sleeve at the other that links to the pedals. I tried putting up a post as well / psg couldn’t help. There’s some guy selling “pull rods” on eBay and I bought one of those but they’re not for any fender I’ve seen and are the internal rods with the hex adjustment at the end… maybe I’ll use those someday but I doubt it,
Anyways, wouldn’t it be nice if Fender would allow custom orders and make steels again??
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Matt Lutton
Mrlutton@gmail.com
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Tim Whitlock
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Colorado, USA
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Posted 11 Dec 2024 8:39 am
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| I'm no mechanical whiz but if I were in need of rods, I think I'd tackle it myself. All you would need would be 1/8" steel rods and a tap and die set to cut the threads in one end. Bend a hook in the other end and Bob's your uncle. Otherwise, a machinist could easily knock out some rods. |
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Matthew Lutton
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Indiana, USA
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Posted 11 Dec 2024 10:29 am Understood, don’t know any machinists and not set up myself
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Yeah I get that but it is definitely beyond my expertise, the rod and bent in I may be able to accomplish but I would not know how to recreate the sleeve, but yeah that’s what I’m hoping for, that someone knows a machinist or 3d printer person that can do this type of thing.
I want a 3d printer so badly, a buddy of mine that plays in several bands teaches high school robotics and got one for school, and he’s used to it to create all kinds of parts and tools for his rig, he even patented a clip for mic stands that holds whatever, like the tube for a voice box is how he uses the clip, but we’ll see if he gets to produce it for others. I know steel wouldn’t be easy but so many other little lap steel parts would be…
Speaking of, I just got an Oahu “Diana” Tonemastee and it’s lovely but the bridge cover is broken - if anyone has a spare (long shot and not best place to ask, I know!) or Gibson Ultratone headstock sleeve and bridge cover… I’m sure there are more random parts I need hence why I wish I could 3d print!
Cheers and thanks for speaking up and sharing your thoughts. I’m off to play my new teardrop Weissenborn from truetone music (was owned by Greg Leisz, the Geib case that came with it has a label with his name on it. Pretty cool!
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Matt Lutton
Mrlutton@gmail.com
https://reverb.com/shop/matthews-boutique-2468 |
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Tim Whitlock
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Colorado, USA
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Posted 11 Dec 2024 3:16 pm
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| The Fender threaded sleeves are nice, but a regular hex nut or even a wing nut would accomplish the task. Just saying. Good luck! |
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Matthew Lutton
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Indiana, USA
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Posted 11 Dec 2024 3:29 pm
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Hmm, ok I should probably take a look at my existing connected pedals to better understand but I think I do. That barrel sleeve goes beneath or beside the pedal when it is connected? Wonder if anyone has good diagrams or original catalog info pages. I’ll look around on Google for sure:
Weissenborn teardrop style 1 arrived today and life may never be the same… ❤️ owned by Greg Leisz who I hear can play!
Thanks again for the great idea / maybe you could draw up a diagram to illustrate but I’m sure by looking at the pedals I’d start to understand where that screw would go instead of the barrel sleeve piece - just needs to be that size? Likely I have something laying around.
Let’s say the pedal rod measures 32” from the tip of the removed barrel to the spot where the bend in the rod is. What steel would I look for and in what size/length do ya think?
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Matt Lutton
Mrlutton@gmail.com
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Matthew Lutton
From:
Indiana, USA
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Posted 11 Dec 2024 3:34 pm Teardrop Weissenborn owned by Greg Leisz
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Oops I shouldn’t mention Weissenborn and not post photos/ here yall go if you wanna take a look. Pretty sure that geib case isn’t original to this as it’s more dread shaped but a nice case for sure. I’ll have to look into what kind of value a nicer fiberboard case like that costs these days.
Teardrop style 1 and might as well show you the ShopGoodwill oddball model I bought from Hawaii that appears to be a one off build. Very cheap and it does not have the sound/volume/projection that all weissenborns have. I just learned about them 6 months ago and since have had two style one models (non teardrop, traded on to my new pal in MI Shane Johnson / great guy and a good player!
Pics and maybe a video if it works, finally!
https://share.icloud.com/photos/03cjGanyYjel10gr8yXTVTWYQ
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Matt Lutton
Mrlutton@gmail.com
https://reverb.com/shop/matthews-boutique-2468 |
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Tim Whitlock
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 11 Dec 2024 7:37 pm
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| Apologies - From your description I think you must have a later (post 1962) model 1000 where the rods connect to the side of the pedal. I was referring to the original (1957 - 1962) models where the rod connects through a hole in the center of the pedal. If that's the case your only hope may be to find someone who has some spare rods laying around. |
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Matthew Lutton
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Indiana, USA
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Tim Whitlock
From:
Colorado, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2024 1:55 pm
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The photo is in fact the original version of the Fender 1000. The rod connects through the hole in the center of the pedal, so crafting a new rod would work using the method I described. It would be nice if someone has spare rods but they are rare as hen's teeth.
Here is an exploded view of the rod and connector. You would need to cut threads in a 1/8" steel rod. The little barrel connector can be replaced with a hex nut or wing nut.
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Matthew Lutton
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