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Topic: Another shout out for Joe Rogers and his Tonex captures |
Susan Alcorn
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Baltimore, MD, USA
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Posted 16 Nov 2024 5:52 pm |
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There are a number of steel guitar players who have raved about (forum member) Joe Rogers' Tonex captures for pedal steel. Last week I bought some of them, and now I'm a big fan too. I had bought a Tonex One pedal several months ago, played around (for too long) with the various models and captures, but couldn't find anything that either worked for the pedal steel or that sounded like playing through a real amp. I decided that looking for virtual amps in the digital world was a waste of time (precious for musicians) and money (in short supply for most of us).
After watching the videos he posted on the SGF, especially the one of him playing Lloyd Green, I was curious, so I contacted him and bought six of them:
Peavey Nashville 400
Peavey Session 400 (original)
Sho-Bud
Fender Vibrosonic
Sarno Revelation preamp
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Bud Charlton's Standel amp.
The music I play can be pretty outside the box, but when it comes to tone, I'm old school and a bit conservative. Every one of these captures sound, to my ears at least, like the real thing.
Though we all hear things differently, and we each have our individual preferences for our steel guitar sound, my favorites are, in order, the Nashville 400, the Session 400, the Sho-Bud, and the Vibrosonic.
I play them on my S12 late-seventies MSA through a Quilter Tone Block 202, going into the effects return.
I feel that this could really be a game changer for the world of steel guitar.
Joe's Youtube videos:
https://youtu.be/UEEwmDabb9w?si=t1bbDKJ1wdfUzx4i
https://youtu.be/03841AwPN3o?si=CgaP6221EQ0oktNc
https://youtu.be/LkGjGcHHIj0?si=PpyS0k89BI55p0SH
Amps he has modelled:
Fender Twin & Vibrosonic
Emmons Lashley LeGrande 600
Evans (assorted models)
Fender Steel King
Fishman Jerry Douglas Aura Dobro
Little Walter PF89
Goodrich Match-Bro (standard reso sound &
Pedabro sound)
Milkman Half & Half
Peavey Nashville 112
Peavey Nashville 400
Peavey Session 400 (original)
Peavey Session 400 Ltd
Peavey Vegas 400
Quilter Steelaire
Randal Steelman 500
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John Lacey
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Black Diamond, Alberta, Canada
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Posted 17 Nov 2024 4:20 pm
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| Susan, does it matter what amp you should play the samples thru? I’ve been using a katana 100 mk. 2 lately. Would it be ok? |
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Susan Alcorn
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Baltimore, MD, USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2024 5:51 pm
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John, ideally you should have an amp with an effects loop because then you can bypass the preamp in your amplifier. How I use it is I go from the volume pedal through my effects pedals (reverb, delay, clean boost) into the Tonex One and then into the amp's effects return. I think your could go into the amp input, but the tone from the Tonex would be mixed in with the preamp of your amplifier.
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Paddy Long
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Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 27 Nov 2024 5:14 pm
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Susan a lot of amps have a "power amp in" jack on the back which also allows you to by-pass the Pre-amp and basically turns your combo amp into a powered speaker!
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Jeffery Mercer
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Born in Portsmouth Oh. Dec. 10th 1954 Reside in City of Mentor, in Northeast Oh.
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Posted 6 Dec 2024 8:02 pm Cost?
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What does it cost for each Different amps that Joe has sampled? I already own the ToneX I’m wondering if I could just UPS my ToneX to Joe and have him Load all his samples onto my ToneX?
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Jeffery in Ohio
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Ben Waligoske
From:
Denver, CO
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Posted 9 Dec 2024 9:17 am
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| I just received a ToneX One a couple days ago and am learning the ropes, thanks so much for posting these Susan! I'm going to grab a couple of these models... Susan, is the only way to purchase to contact Joe directly? |
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Andy Zahnd
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Switzerland
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Posted 9 Dec 2024 2:28 pm
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I use the Quad Cortex, which I'm sure can do as much if not more than Tonex. I had a long conversation with Joe. He recommended that I use as neutral a power amp as possible. The best 3 poweramps that Joe, and subsequently I, recommend are
for small gigs: TCF electronics BAM 200
Medium sized gigs: Ashdown Ant
and if it has to be really loud: Ashdown Original EVO-300
As a speaker cabinet (also a very important piece of the puzzle) a Tommy Huff speaker cabinet with a 15“ Quilter TT 15” speaker.
With this and Joe's Captures and Impulse Responses you have the ultimate sound, guaranteed!  |
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Joe Rogers
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Lake Charles, LA USA
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Posted 9 Dec 2024 9:13 pm
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In response to Andy's post, it has been a while since we talked power amps...I am now not quite as excited about the Ashdown EVO-300, as I later found there to be more coloration than I like, although the Ashdown ANT is a strong contender for most stages. Technically all of the EQ knobs should be rolled off, although I have heard of some that put them all wide open and feel it opens up the unit. I have not tried the latter move.
I am hearing good things about the ICE power amps, although I haven't driven down that road yet.
I do LOVE the Telonics rack mount power amps. I feel they are the most neutral I have heard. Get a speaker cabinet with one rack space, and you're good to go. I would love to see Telonics build an FRFR cabinet, no word on whether or not that will happen. It would likely be based on demand.
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Ron Hogan
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Nashville, TN, usa
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David Alexander
From:
Mead, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 11 Dec 2024 9:12 am Tonex
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| Dobro players need to know that Joe has sampled all 16 samples on the Jerry Douglas Aura Pedal with the phase filter both ways for each for a total of 32 options! My ears can’t tell the difference between them and the real Aura through an amp or ear monitors. For steel I’m using the Peavey Vegas 400 capture and running straight into a TC Furlong powered cabinet. Now that Tonex has added delay, chorus, etc to their bag of effects you don’t need any other pedals. For ear monitor gigs I go from the pedal straight to the board! Joe has spent hundreds of hours on this stuff so the computer illiterates like myself don’t have to. He has sampled all of his captures from original amps and pedals. Thanks so much Joe |
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Nathan Guilford
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Oklahoma City
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Posted 11 Dec 2024 8:32 pm How?
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What website do you go to buy and download the Joe Roger's models? If Susan Alcorn likes it... Wow. Always been blown away by Susan's tone and creativity. Big fan here.
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Paddy Long
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Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 12 Dec 2024 11:56 am
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Nathan you need to contact Joe directly -- try here on the forum !
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