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Topic: Pedal chain order ? |
Brooks Montgomery
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Posted 27 Nov 2024 11:38 am |
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Wanted to double check with you experts on pedal chain sequence
For lapsteel (and guitar) bluesy stuff:
Lap steel > Blackbox > Slide Rig (double compressor)>Sarno Earth Drive>Wet Reverb>DD3>amp ……..yes?
And if I throw in a VP, put it after the Earth drive?
Thanks !
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Stew Crookes
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Paris, France
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Posted 27 Nov 2024 1:05 pm
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pedal order is a bit of a 'preferences rather than rules' sort of thing... Volume pedal placement can really depend on how you set the other pedals - you may want it after distortion so that it only controls the volume and the distortion amount stays constant, or you may like using it before the distortion and compressor (like I do) if you aren't hitting those pedals very hard and the volume pedal decides how much you lean into those pedals. Gotta try various places to see what does the thing you like...
Most would agree that delay works better before reverb though 
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Fred Treece
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California, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2024 1:43 pm
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| Most would agree that delay works better before reverb though |
+1 |
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Brooks Montgomery
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Idaho, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2024 2:47 pm
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Ah, thanks, forgot that: reverb after delay.
And this little pedal board is not for pedal steel (I have a separate board for pedal steel.)
6-string lap and guitar only.
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Tucker Jackson
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 27 Nov 2024 5:56 pm
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All good.
But I will say that there can be a reason for sometimes putting reverb before delay -- I've seen Greg Leisz do this.
If you're going for that super wet, etherial sound (which you aren't here, for bluesy stuff) putting the reverb first ensures that you get the full measure of reverb on the echos. Meanwhile, if the unit are in the reverse order, the naturally softer 'echo' from the dealy hits the reverb box and sometimes, doesn't pick up much reverb. You get a drier echo... |
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Tony Prior
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Charlotte NC
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Posted 29 Nov 2024 12:20 am
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Compression, EQ, Drive, Modulation , Time . Many prefer Delay ahead of Reverb. This is the typical and many times considered the standard signal chain format
Regarding the Volume Pedal there is a ton of conversation and opinions. It appears that the most common placement is ahead of the pedal board, meaning FIRST, which to me seems obvious and makes the most sense ! 
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Dennis Detweiler
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Solon, Iowa, US
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Posted 29 Nov 2024 7:31 am
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I made one change to my initial chain. I use an Envelope Filter and found it better to have it before the Compressor to balance its outcome. However, the volume pedal is after all of my effects. Overdrive before the volume pedal helps to keep its settings the same at all volumes. Once all of my pedals are set to preference, I never have to tweak them when the band volume varies.
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Patrick Huey
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Nacogdoches, Texas, USA
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Posted 14 Dec 2024 6:35 am
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| Brooks Montgomery wrote: |
Ah, thanks, forgot that: reverb after delay.
And this little pedal board is not for pedal steel (I have a separate board for pedal steel.)
6-string lap and guitar only. |
I prefer my drive stuff in front of the amp then use my effects loop with eq pedal first followed by time based stuff. The EQ first in the loop allows for final additional post pre amp tone shaping options and as opposed to EQ pedal in front of the amp that only shapes the guitar signal, having it in the loop allows me to shape the ENTIRE final signal prior to hitting the time based stuff then the final power amp.
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Fred Treece
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California, USA
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Posted 14 Dec 2024 9:09 am
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| I prefer my drive stuff in front of the amp then use my effects loop with eq pedal first followed by time based stuff. |
Agreed. If you have an fx loop and use outboard ambient effects, that is what it’s for.
Also experiment with putting the volume pedal in the loop, as this acts as a primary master volume control and allows the full gain and tone shape of the preamp to hit the power amp at any volume level. I like it, but to each their own. |
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Brett Lanier
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Madison, TN
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Posted 14 Dec 2024 9:33 am
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| I like the compressor after the volume pedal. That way it just puts a finishing touch on everything rather than clamping down harder when you pick hard. My big board has an overdrive that I can insert before the volume pedal, but when I use the overdrive I turn off the compressor. That board has another overdrive pedal after the volume pedal and compressor, for lighter overdrive sounds. |
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