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Topic: Joe Rogers and his tonex amp captures |
Andy Gibson
From: Tennessee USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2024 4:24 pm
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Shout out to Joe Rogers for his tonex amp captures. This pedal would be useless for steel guitar if it weren’t for him. He’s captured allot of the great steel amps……Sho-Bud, Buddy Charelton’s personal Standel Custom XV, Peavey nash400 fox and LeMay mods, session 400, Webb, Evans, Little Walter and more! He’s also modeled some great cabinet IR’s too. It’s a pain staking process to get these amps captured and he has done a magnificent job and continues to diligently create new ones. He also does quad cortex but I don’t have that. Thanks again Joe, you’re wonderful!
Last edited by Andy Gibson on 17 Nov 2024 10:28 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Doug Taylor
From: Shelbyville, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2024 4:39 pm
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Joe is the best when it comes to Tonex! I have a half dozen or so classic steel amps thanks to Joe! |
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Greg Cutshaw
From: Corry, PA, USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2024 5:20 pm
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Joe's captures sound pretty awesome from the reviews I've read.
The ToneX is totally useful and awesome for pedal steel guitar though even with the stock sounds. With a few tweaks, the tone and reverb on the stock Tone X beat out my Nashville 400, Fractal Axe 3, Quilter Travis Troy 15, Princeton Reverb and home built 6V6 tube amps.
I have used this pedal with my MSA Legend D-10, Excel S-10, Excel S-12 D13 and Sierra S-12 D13 guitars with spectacular results for practice and recording.
The ToneX is even better now that they are releasing the delay, rotating speaker and other effects as a free upgrade to existing units.
My review of the stock ToneX pedal:
https://www.gregcutshaw.com/ToneX%20Pedal/ToneX%20Pedal.html
A sample the stock twin reverb amp with plate reverb:
https://www.gregcutshaw.com/ToneX%20Pedal/2.Twin%20Factory%20With%20Room%20Reverb%20Cranked%20Up.mp3 |
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Andy Zahnd
From: Switzerland
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Posted 10 Nov 2024 2:24 am
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I own a lot of amps and I don't want to brag about them, I don't want to list them here. I've owned a Quad Cortex (this is something like the big brother of the Tonex) for about 3 months. Joe Rogers explained this beast to me and opened up a whole new world with his captures and impulse responses. I've never had such a sound in my 32 years of playing pedal steel! I no longer go on stage with one amp, no, I go on stage with 15-20 steel amps and play with the amp that I like best! The Quad Cortex also has countless fantastic sounding effects in it... the combinations of amp, speakers and effects are endless! And even if you don't like fiddling around with sounds, you quickly get an absolutely fantastic, crystal-clear steel sound that always comes into its own in the studio, live on stage or at a jam! I can play in-ear or monitor or with a power amp (currently Ashdown Bassamp) with a Speakercabinet from Tommy Huff with a TT 15”, always just what it needs! The weight and volume that you have to transport is also no problem for my bad back! Joe Rogers deserves to be thanked 1000 times over. He's not just a monster player, his name should actually be Doc Cortex. I hope Joe shows as many steel players as possible what sounds are possible!
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Ron Hogan
From: Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 10 Nov 2024 8:03 am Re: Ode to Joe Rogers and his tonex amp captures
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Andy Gibson wrote: |
Shout out to Joe Rogers for his tonex amp captures. This pedal would be useless for steel guitar if it weren’t for him. He’s captured allot of the great steel amps……Sho-Bud, Buddy Charelton’s personal Standel Custom XV, Peavey nash400 fox and LeMay mods, session 400, Webb, Evans, Little Walter and more! He’s also modeled some great cabinet IR’s too. It’s a pain staking process to get these amps captured and he has done a magnificent job and continues to diligently create new ones. He also does quad cortex but I don’t have that. Thanks again Joe, you’re wonderful! |
Andy, you hit the head of the nail! I too have received amp models/presets from Joe and I'm really appreciative of his hard work. He goes above and beyond for capturing these presets. He travels far away, just to meet with someone that has an amp that he'd like to model to present to us.
I've been experimenting with the ToneX for close to 2 months now, thx to Johnny Cox turning me on to it. When it's new to you, you'll find yourself onstage wanting to switch amps all the time. DON"T DO THAT!. You'll drive yourself crazy. Currently, I'll force myself to take one preset/model at a time on a gig and give it your full attention to tweaking it to make it yours (that way you can decide if that model is for you or not).
Also...in the beginning you may get frustrated trying to learn how to operate it, what knobs do what and so forth. There are a ton of YouTubes of rockers playing and showing things, but not that many that will help you. I finally found one that really helps you to learn the controls. I'd be glad to send it to you.
My mindset now with the ToneX is, I don't really need any of my amps anymore as this thing does it all! |
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Glenn Austin
From: Montreal, Canada
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Posted 10 Nov 2024 12:23 pm
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Where can we buy these Joe Rogers amp captures ?
They're not on the ToneX site ? |
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James Polk
From: Texas, USA
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Posted 10 Nov 2024 5:56 pm
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Yes yes yes! Where can we find these for download/purchase? |
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Ron Hogan
From: Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 10 Nov 2024 6:31 pm
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You can message Joe here on the Forum. |
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Joe Rogers
From: Lake Charles, LA USA
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Posted 10 Nov 2024 11:44 pm
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Guys, thanks so much for the plug..!! I started this journey some years ago with the Kemper. The newer entries (Neural DSP & IK Multimedia) incorporate AI within the modeling and it produces much more accurate results. The technology seems to be changing about every 2 weeks and sometimes it’s all I can do to keep abreast of it. As we speak, Neural released the Nano Cortex a few weeks ago, and in a few days IK will release a major effects upgrade to the TONEX. I have a FAQ document that I am in the process of updating to provide ALL of the information to help you decide which route you want to go. I should have the document complete tonight or tomorrow. Most of the guys posting here have the TONEX, Andy has the Quad Cortex, go on Facebook and look up Matthew Begay. He came to one of my Tracy Byrd gigs and ordered a Quad Cortex the following week. Look at his videos older than the last 3 weeks and then listen to his newest videos. And he is playing an older MSA. I’ll let you be the judge.
There are 2 Tonemeisters I have the utmost admiration and respect for…Johnny Cox and Tommy Detamore. BOTH of these guys are old school amp guys (as I am as well). Both of these guys are the players you would expect to be holdouts against this technology. Johnny came to my house and experienced it. He now has TONEX incorporated into his live gigs. Tommy is wading in at a more cautious pace, but know that he has already opened the door to the technology and sees and hears the possibilities.
I don’t consider this technology to be amp replacement, but rather amp preservation. Tommy has some wonderful Standels, Johnny has some wonderful Sho-Bud amps. These precious antiques are not something you want bouncing in the back of a trailer hitting potholes. By creating a sonic duplicate, you can have your cake and eat it too. And in the case of these particular amps, by utilizing the newer power amps, you can now have a 350 watt Sho-Bud single channel…..power that didn’t exist back in the day.
To those of you who think it won’t sound or feel like playing through a real amp, I defy any player to get on Johnny’s TONEX rig or Andy’s Quad Cortex and play through one of my presets, close your eyes, and tell me it doesn’t sound or feel like the original amp. The tech is here. It’s real, it’s light, and it’s GOOD. It isn’t meant to replace your beloved amp…it is meant to preserve it.
Some of you may have already heard my amp models and not known it, as I posted these a few years back:
https://youtu.be/UEEwmDabb9w?si=t1bbDKJ1wdfUzx4i
https://youtu.be/03841AwPN3o?si=CgaP6221EQ0oktNc
https://youtu.be/LkGjGcHHIj0?si=PpyS0k89BI55p0SH
Send me a private message or email from this site and I will send a link to the FAQ document outlining the pros & cons of the two products mentioned above so that you can make a more informed decision as to which direction you want to go.
And thanks again to all who have gotten their amp models from me.
Joe Rogers |
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Jon Light
From: Saugerties, NY
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Posted 11 Nov 2024 11:19 am
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My appreciation to Joe for getting his FAQ sheet to me on my request.
It is a good comprehensive discussion of the pros & cons of the two company's models and their lower priced offerings.
A good starting point for my first steps in thinking on this. |
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Mike Neer
From: NJ
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Posted 11 Nov 2024 11:33 am
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I have the Standel and Sho-Bud captures from Joe for a little over a month now. I use the Standel capture a lot, played through the return of my JC-45 and I really like the sound. It really captures that hifi crispness. I’m still tweaking the settings looking for my sweet spot. _________________ Links to streaming music, websites, YouTube: Links |
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Ron Hogan
From: Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 15 Nov 2024 9:30 am
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For those that want to upgrade the Software on their pedal, this guy has good videos. Even though the new version is 1.8.0, the pedal itself will say 1.5.11.
The laptop will be 1.8.0. As long as you have your pedal hooked to your laptop, it will upgrade it with the Delay, reverb and modulation effects.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mn-PJFiEilw
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Mike Neer
From: NJ
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Posted 15 Nov 2024 10:42 am
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Anyone have any good Standel or Sho-Bud amp settings they want to share?
I play through an amp with speakers, so I don’t use the IRs unless going direct, in which case I use my Neural DSP plugins. I relly like the hifi sparkle of the Standel without an IR. The speakers in my amp can accommodate some of that.. _________________ Links to streaming music, websites, YouTube: Links |
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Ron Hogan
From: Nashville, TN, usa
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Posted 28 Nov 2024 8:38 am
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Here's a video of an explanation of each knob on your ToneX pedal and how to use it.
https://youtu.be/wETOD3SEP6c |
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