Current Production PSGs - $2-3k

Andrew Lodge · From: Wisconsin, USA

I am aware of the Justice Pro / Pro Lite and the Mullen Discovery. Are there any other new guitars available in this price range?

I’m not looking for anything fancy—just a basic 3x4. I’ve got a GFI Student Model and if weren’t for the fact that the RKL raises the F#s to G rather than the standard Emmons copedent, I would be satisfied.

Kelcey ONeil · From: Sevierville, TN

Andrew,
If I'm not mistaken, it's a pretty simple fix on your guitar to raise the 1st string a whole tone.
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Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

Kelcey is probably right. See if there is an adjustment to allow the knee lever to travel farther. That will allow the lever to pull the string farther.

About the F# to G change. When I started in the 1970, that was the most common change on a 4th knee lever. It was that way throughout the 70s into maybe the 90s. I have had my F#s to G changes on my LKV lever since probably 1972. I do also have the first string raise to G#, second string to E, and 6th string lower to F# on my RKR.

If it was me, I would raise string 1 and 2. I don't know anything about that guitar, but if the bell cranks can be moved, you can move the one from string 7 to the second string. If they can't be moved, raise string 7 to G# too (a pretty common change).
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Bobby D. Jones · From: West Virginia, USA

I looked on GFI's web site. Picture is not easy to see how guitar is set up. If the guitar has 6 or 7 hole movable bell cranks. It should not be to hard to move the RKL pulls to what you want.

Some close up photos would help.
I own and work on GFI ULTRA's, Not sure how a student model is set up on levers and pull rods.

Good Luck on getting a guitar set up like you want.

Eric Philippsen · From: Central Florida USA

In that range is the Encore made by Doug Ernst. He has a website and a waiting list.

They are great pedal steels. I have two.

Used ones come up for sale every now and then but they sell right away. I think it is accurate to say they are very desirable.

Andrew Frost · From: Toronto, Ontario

I just set up a GFI pull-release S10 for a student last week. I put 1 & 7 raising a
half tone F# to G on RKL, but I'm pretty sure it would have been possible to raise them both to G#. There were 7 hole moveable bell cranks to work with on each pull, and I had plenty of 'headroom' left on those pulls in terms of bellcrank hole position. This guitar had limited selection on the changer end, but I think raising 2 the half tone ( D#-E ) instead of string 7 would indeed be possible on that knee lever, as suggested in the thread here. You would have to deal with setting up the raising and lowering of string 2 though, which is a little trickier on a pull-release but can be done.

Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

Ahh... A pull release. I would go with both F#s to G#
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Michael Lyons · From: Austin, Texas

Hey Andrew, I was able to adjust my GFI student RKL to G# on 1&7 pretty easily with just the tuning plate. Im going to add a second string lift to RKL sometime this week as well. Bob at GFI was kind enough to answer all my rodding questions when I emailed him this past week too! These are pretty straight forward to work with once you spend a couple hours messing with them Laughing

let me know if you have any trouble.

Andrew Lodge · From: Wisconsin, USA

Thank you all for the advice, however it seems that I may have been mistaken in referring to the “standard Emmons” setup:

I would like the RKL to lower the 6 string from G# to F#. This lever currently raises the 7 string from F# to G. To quote the late great Forrest Gump (may he rest in peace), I’m not a smart man — so please bear with me…

Looking at how this thing works, it appears that the left levers are simply pulling the corresponding rods forward. This causes the finger(s) to rotate away from the nut, raising tension and pitch.

Conversely, the right levers push the rods back, rotating the fingers toward the nut which loosens tension and lowers pitch.

I don’t see any mechanism which would allow a lever to rotate a finger counter to the direction of the rod.

Obviously, this is common; is there just some doohickey that allows a left lower that my student-level instrument lacks?

Michael Lyons · From: Austin, Texas

Ah yea I see what you mean. I don't know of any way we could do that with the student model but I'm interested in finding out.

Craig A Davidson · From: Wisconsin Rapids, Wisconsin USA

Looking at a picture of a GFI student model it appears to have to rows of screws on the endplate. Aren't there two holes in each changerfor the pull rods?
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Andrew Frost · From: Toronto, Ontario

This thread / topic is related to adding a "reverser" to a pull-release set up...

Hope it is helpful.

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=403868

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