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Topic: Learning the B6 part on a U12 |
Melody Freeman
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 12 Sep 2024 5:42 pm
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Hi, with playing an E9/B6 12 string, what is the best way to learn the B6 part of the instrument? _________________ Melody Freeman |
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Ian Rae
From: Redditch, England
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Posted 12 Sep 2024 9:49 pm
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Any C6 course material such as Buddy Emmons' Basic C6.
You soon get used to playing everything a fret higher.
I use B6 a lot on songs which are neither jazz nnòr swing.
Enjoy! _________________ Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs
Last edited by Ian Rae on 16 Sep 2024 9:27 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Melody Freeman
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2024 3:32 am
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Ian, thank you for the info. I appreciate it! _________________ Melody Freeman |
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Ken Metcalf
From: San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 13 Sep 2024 4:46 am
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I sent you A PM _________________ MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
Bunch of stomp boxes |
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Michael Drury
From: Vermont, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2024 8:45 am
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Hey Melody I played a U12 for a bit and I understood B6 better once I studied the ways the E9 and C6 tunings are similar and why the universal tuning works. And of course it helped to spend some time tuned to C6 and get to know it a bit |
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Melody Freeman
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2024 4:37 pm Learning the B6 on a Universal 12
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Michael Drury,
When you referred to learning the C6th, do I think of doing the lever that lowers the E’s making it an Eb and just playing one fret higher? With the tuning that I have on my D-10, I have the strings D, E, C, A, G, E, C, A, F, and C. On my U12 I have F#, D#, G#, E, B, G#, F#, E, B, G#, E, and B. Everything is a half step lower on the U12, except for the E’s, thus the Eb lever, plus there isn’t a half step lower on my U12 for the D (1st string) that is on my D-10. Thank you for the information!
Melody Freeman _________________ Melody Freeman |
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John Sims
From: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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Posted 16 Sep 2024 5:58 pm
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Just get Jeff Newman's 'The E9, B6 Course' and your problems are solved... _________________ Best Regards,
John
1997 Carter U-12 Double Body-Natural Birdseye Maple-8p/5k, Peavey Nashville 1000 Amp, Goodrich L10K Vol. Pedal, Boss DD-3 Delay, Boss CE-5 Chorus, Behringer UMC-204HD Audio Interface, AKAI MPK Mini MK3 Professional Midi Keyboard/Controller, Gretsch Bobtail Resonator, Fender Banjo, Rondo SX Lap Steel (C6), DIY Lap Steel (Open D), and a few Mojo Hand Cigar Box Guitars (MojoHandGuitars.com). |
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Melody Freeman
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2024 6:10 pm Learning the B6 on a U12
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John,
Thank you for the info!
Melody _________________ Melody Freeman |
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J D Sauser
From: Wellington, Florida
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Posted 18 Sep 2024 7:21 am
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I would start by integrating some inherent E9th changes which are also found on C6th in your thinking:
I am going to refer to C6th pedals as P-1 thru 8 as on a basic D10 BE-8 pedal setup. Being a B6th player you WILL need to understand the prevalent C6th setup and how it relates to your pedal arrangement!
- Releasing the E-Eb-lever is pretty much doing what "P6" does on C or B6th.
- Adding the B-pedal to B6h (E-Eb-lever engaged), which on E9th you do all night long, is the same as one of the typical add-on changes on C6th (raising the A's half).
- Having the A-pedal (E-Eb engaged) is a huge advantage C6th players don't have, which acts like a "split" P7.
- If you've done some "swinging" on E9th you might have added the E-Eb lever to an A&B-down position going 2 frets down. "P5" on C or B6th has the same effect (Jeff called it "The 2-below"... and turns your Major 6th chord into a Dom7/9th 2 frets below.
Once you integrate those basic changes you are well off to understand any C6th video and play it "universal" some times out of your E's-down B6th mode or your A&B-mode A6th positions using changes all across your pedal rack. THAT's the approach which will give you advantages over most standard D10 setups. That's how Maurice viewed and played his E9th/B6th uni.
Getting Jeff's course as John suggests will further help you integrate and put it all together.
... J-D. _________________ __________________________________________________________
Was it JFK who said: Ask Not What TAB Can Do For You - Rather Ask Yourself "What Would B.B. King Do?"
A Little Mental Health Warning:
Tablature KILLS SKILLS.
The uses of Tablature is addictive and has been linked to reduced musical fertility.
Those who produce Tablature did never use it.
I say it humorously, but I mean it. |
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Melody Freeman
From: Illinois, USA
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Posted 18 Sep 2024 7:45 am
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J D,
Thank you so much for the info!
Melody _________________ Melody Freeman |
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J D Sauser
From: Wellington, Florida
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Posted 18 Sep 2024 9:48 am
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Melody Freeman wrote: |
J D,
Thank you so much for the info!
Melody |
Thanks for saying "thanks". I know that it may be difficult to understand in written format. You are welcome to ask more detailed questions here or on PM.
... J-D. _________________ __________________________________________________________
Was it JFK who said: Ask Not What TAB Can Do For You - Rather Ask Yourself "What Would B.B. King Do?"
A Little Mental Health Warning:
Tablature KILLS SKILLS.
The uses of Tablature is addictive and has been linked to reduced musical fertility.
Those who produce Tablature did never use it.
I say it humorously, but I mean it. |
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