Are both halves of the Changer supposed to Move?

Daniel Sowards · From: Nashville Tennessee, USA

Hello everyone,

Today I was working on my Emmons Lashley LeGrande II, I noticed on the 6th neck when I engage the P6 pedal that lowers string 6 the raise portion of the changer slightly moves forward. Is this expected or does it affect pitch?

Thanks!

Kelcey ONeil · From: Sevierville, TN

Daniel,
That's completely normal for a LeGrande, most iterations of all pull changers do that as well.
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Ron Pruter · From: Arizona, USA

Note: If the raise is moving forward, that would indicate the string is also being raised . By forward, do you mean to the left when seated?
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Bobby D. Jones · From: West Virginia, USA

Turn the guitar upside down.
Does the Lower Return spring on string 6 match the other Lower return springs. A wrong spring can really fowl things up. Shorter or Heavier spring could be problem.

Watch the Raise Lever on the problem string.
If the Raise finger is moving off the Stop Bar. On Most, All Pull guitars, The Lower Return spring needs a little more length or slightly less tension. Or to much pressure will be put on the Raise Lever Rivet pivot point.

If the guitar has Adjustment Screws on the Lower Return Springs. Mark location of adjustment screw, Loosen the lower return screw 1 full turn and check if the raise bar is moving. Loosen another full turn, Check the raise lever. Till the raise lever stays tight against the stop.
Then check open and any raise tuning.
This is a move and try thing to find the proper fix.

If the guitar does not have adjustable Lower Return springs, Stretching the Lower Return Spring is very tricky.

Adjusting lower return springs proper, Is part of the test, In becoming a steel guitar Goo Roo/Wizard.

Good Luck in this project, Happy Steelin.

Ron Pruter · From: Arizona, USA

I totally agree with. Bobby. Smile

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Ron Pruter · From: Arizona, USA

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Jim Palenscar · From: Oceanside, Calif, USA

I'll have to disagree w my friend Kelcey on this one. The raise scissor should not pull away from the stop plate when the string is being lowered- if so you are chasing your tail while trying to tune as the string is raising and lowering simultaneously. The two causes that I know of are excessive pressure from the lower return spring and/or the pull rod is in the wrong hole in the lowering scissor- being too close to the rivet holding the raise and lower scissor together. If possible put the pull rod in the changer hole furthest from the changer axle.

Kelcey ONeil · From: Sevierville, TN

Jim,

I should have clarified. The raise scissor should not move away from the stop bar/ endplate when a string is being lowered. It does pivot up and down slightly against the endplate, but not in a forward motion to raise the pitch.

Early in my career, I thought something was wrong when is saw what I just described, and it drove me crazy!
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