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Reggie Duncan
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Posted 19 Aug 2024 5:14 pm |
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This guitar was waaaay out of tune and I have it back with one exception. 4th string. I get the F# tuned the D# is out. I think raising to F is ok. I don’t see a way to fix that with the top row of screws and the tuners. It doesn’t look like the rods have been readjusted underneath. Any advice helpful as I have never seen a guitar like this.
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Bobby D. Jones
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West Virginia, USA
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Posted 19 Aug 2024 8:46 pm
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From the picture.
The row of hex headed screws looks like they are split tuning stop screws, For string lowering splits.
Check the 8th string to be sure it lowers proper. The 4th and 8th both lower to D# in most E9th tunings. And can affect each other in raise and lower.
The 4th hex headed screw looks like it is screwed in farther than the others. And won't let the finger lower to the D# note.
Loosen the 4 string hex screw a few turns and (keep track of number of turns), So it can be returned if it does not solve the problem.
This will allow the bottom of the changer finger to move more to the rear and allow the string to lower to D# note.
Good Luck in solving the problem, Happy Steelin. |
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Ivan Funk
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Hamburg Pennsylvania, USA
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 20 Aug 2024 1:50 am
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thats a Marlen endplate and changer,,,
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Jon Light
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Saugerties, NY
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Posted 20 Aug 2024 4:21 am
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Yep, looks like a Marlen. With the window divider cut out.
Here is the tuning procedure:
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Reggie Duncan
From:
Mississippi
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Reggie Duncan
From:
Mississippi
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Posted 20 Aug 2024 2:49 pm Another question
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I’m really getting nowhere, even with all of this great info. A couple questions. The 8th string lower is in the bottom hole of the changer. The 4th string lower is in the 2nd from bottom with the raise rod in the bottom hole. No matter what I do the 4th string lower rod will not move the finger. The lower rod is very short through the finger. Any of this ring a bell?
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Jon Light
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Posted 20 Aug 2024 3:06 pm
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It has been quite a while since I had a Marlen on my bench and it is difficult to visualize well. It was a very challenging guitar to set up. More complex than a push pull.
Consider the possibility that the raise nut does not have enough slack to allow the finger to lower. Try backing off the nylon raise tuner. See if that allows the lower to work. You may need to back it off a lot, then compensating by increasing the pedal throw at the rocker where the pedal rod attaches.
Also be sure that the lower return springs have enough tension.
I'm just throwing that out there -- like I said, it's been a while and without having it right here, it's just a faint mental image that I'm working from. |
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Reggie Duncan
From:
Mississippi
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Posted 20 Aug 2024 3:09 pm Okay
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I’ll try this tomorrow. The raise rod is short coming thru the changer. I plan to get some slack there so I can release the tension at the finger, allowing the lower to work. Fingers crossed! Thanks.
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richard burton
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Britain
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Posted 22 Aug 2024 10:17 am
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It's a Pull Release changer so there needs to be enough slack in the C pedal raise rod to allow the 4th finger to drop a semitone when its knee lever is activated.
Sometimes, to get enough slack in the 4th string raise rod,
the pedal travel of the C pedal has to be increased, and the raise collar re-adjusted to accommodate this increased travel
When the collar has been reset, and the C pedal is in its '
'at rest' position, there should be enough slack in the raise rod to allow the 4th string to drop a semitone |
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Ivan Funk
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Hamburg Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 24 Aug 2024 8:12 am
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A picture of the slack in the C pedal - note the gap between the bellcrank and the collar circled in red.
Once the slack is set to allow for the E lower, the C pedal travel might need to be increased to reach up to the F#. (green arrow)
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Reggie Duncan
From:
Mississippi
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Posted 24 Aug 2024 8:14 am Success
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Thanks to all of you I think I have it operating correctly. Thank you again!!
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