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Topic: What Mic for micing dobro |
David Cook
From: Florida, USA
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Posted 15 Aug 2024 3:27 pm
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Hi
I recently saw Rhonda Vincent live and her dobro player was just micing it. I don't know what mic he was using.
Right now I use a Shure 57
Would it be significantly better to use a condenser mic and what brand would be recommended
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David Cook
From: Florida, USA
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Posted 15 Aug 2024 3:33 pm
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I forgot to say that I play dobro sitting down in a group that is not too loud |
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John Ducsai
From: New Hampshire, USA
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Ricky Davis
From: Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 15 Aug 2024 5:39 pm
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When I go into Studio to Record Reso; I tell engineer to place the most expensive vocal mic over it(usually ribbon) and wala....sounds better than anything else.
Ricky _________________ Ricky Davis
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Brandon Mills
From: Victoria, TX. USA
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Posted 15 Aug 2024 9:37 pm
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I second a ribbon mic. Every recording that I have tried to emulate on Dobro has sounded best with a ribbon mic. |
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Howard Parker
From: Maryland
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Posted 16 Aug 2024 10:27 am
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Ribbon for recording? Sure.
For live performance???? Not so much.
Want a simple upgrade from your SM57? I recommend the Shure beta57 dynamic. Economical & rugged!
hp |
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Brooks Montgomery
From: Idaho, USA
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Posted 16 Aug 2024 11:57 am
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I’ll second what Howard said, the Shure beta 57A is a great affordable mic
Rob Ickes got a lot of quality sound (and volume!) for many years out of the AKG C1000 condenser mic (but that was without drums and electric amps surrounding him). _________________ A banjo, like a pet monkey, seems like a good idea at first. |
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Eric OHara
From: Port Kent, NY
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Posted 17 Aug 2024 3:58 pm
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Hi - I second the use of the C1000S. I've used it on the road in live performance and its a great mic.
We prefer to use the older ones that are either made in Austria or Poland. You can pick up used ones in
good condition for around $100-125. They are also very durable. Some condensers cant withstand the rigors
of the road. this one can. EJO _________________ GFI S-10 Ultra (GFI II pickup)
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Rick Abbott
From: Indiana, USA
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Posted 18 Aug 2024 12:04 pm
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I have been using a Beyerdynamic M 201 TG for a couple of years. Very clear sound and great off-axis rejection. Very hard to beat, in my opinion. _________________ RICK ABBOTT
Sho~Bud D-10 Professional #7962
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Gary Meixner
From: New York, USA
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Posted 18 Aug 2024 2:51 pm
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I don't have a recommendation but have wondered if anyone has used a Meyers Feather? I have seen them mentioned from time to time but haven't heard any reports as to their effectiveness.
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Ian Rae
From: Redditch, England
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Posted 18 Aug 2024 3:50 pm
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The Beyer M201 was the the replacement for the old M160 double-ribbon hypercardioid, which had great transient response and great rejection but was labour-intensive to produce, since the twin ribbon units had to be carefully matched.
The M201 is a dynamic, and good though it is, it will never compete with a ribbon. Not saying you shouldn't use it if you like it! _________________ Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs |
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Chris Bauer
From: Nashville, TN USA
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Posted 19 Aug 2024 6:32 am
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For live, it's great to have a wonderful condenser mic to pick up all that glorious tone. The problem is that most FOH guys have no clue how to actually use one in a live mix. I usually ask for a humble 57 or Beta 57 because they're used to working with one and, as a rule, the sound of more knowledge with a lesser mic beats little or no knowledge about a better mic every time.
That said, more often than not I'm running direct with dobro these days - Reso -> JD Aura -> any effects I might be using -> whatever the best-sounding DI is that's available at the time. |
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Brooks Montgomery
From: Idaho, USA
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Posted 19 Aug 2024 9:00 am
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Chris Bauer wrote: |
That said, more often than not I'm running direct with dobro these days - Reso -> JD Aura -> any effects I might be using -> whatever the best-sounding DI is that's available at the time. |
Me too. Really is a remarkable system for all situations. _________________ A banjo, like a pet monkey, seems like a good idea at first. |
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Rick Abbott
From: Indiana, USA
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Posted 19 Aug 2024 3:24 pm
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Ian Rae wrote: |
The Beyer M201 was the the replacement for the old M160 double-ribbon hypercardioid, which had great transient response and great rejection but was labour-intensive to produce, since the twin ribbon units had to be carefully matched.
The M201 is a dynamic, and good though it is, it will never compete with a ribbon. Not saying you shouldn't use it if you like it! |
I have dozens of mics available in my studio and live rig, including ribbons. For the kind of gigs I play, and that most people play, a dynamic is a great choice. The M201 is by far the best dynamic I've used on dobro, mandolin, sax, snare drum and electric guitar cabinets. Honestly, on a loud stage they do a dang fine job of drum overheads. They have great off axis rejection. It's a great mic. I wasn't trying to compare it to a ribbon in any way. I'm managing a small theater stage right now and am considering buying 6 of them to beef up my stage mic supply. I do, indeed, like them.
My next purchase for the studio will be 2-4 M160 ribbons, or maybe 2 of them and 2 M130 figure of eight, mics. They sound so great on acoustic instruments!! _________________ RICK ABBOTT
Sho~Bud D-10 Professional #7962
Remington T-8, Sehy #112
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Ian Rae
From: Redditch, England
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Posted 19 Aug 2024 3:32 pm
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All good stuff, Rick! I had no idea the M160 was still available - I assumed it had retired (like me). I was using them for woodwinds with a radio orchestra back in the 70s - the best oboe mic ever! _________________ Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
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Mitchell Smithey
From: Dallas, USA
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Posted 22 Aug 2024 6:13 am
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To my ears the M-160 beats everything, it has more detail and dynamic response than most condensers but that’s typical of most good ribbons. Haven’t tried the 201 but I’m sure it’s a great mic. |
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