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Topic: The weight of different brands of U12 Pedal Steel Guitars |
Melody Freeman
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Illinois, USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2024 5:43 am |
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Hi, what is the weight of the different brands of the U12 pedal steel guitars (not counting the case weight) with all the pedals, and no arm rest?
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 5 Jul 2024 6:21 am
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| How many pedals. How many levers? I think your question might be better phrased: Which is the lightest universal? Excel has a reputation of being one of the lightest steels. |
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Melody Freeman
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Illinois, USA
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Posted 5 Jul 2024 6:36 am
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Bill, you are right. I would be more interested in a U12 with 6 knee levers and 8 pedals. What brand is the lightest U12?
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Dennis Detweiler
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Solon, Iowa, US
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Posted 5 Jul 2024 8:10 am
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I'm guessing GFI or Exel? Williams maybe next?
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1976 Birdseye U-12 MSA with Telonics 427 pickup, 1975 Birdseye U-12 MSA with Telonics X-12 pickup, Revelation preamp, Carbon Copy Delay and Hall Of Fame Reverb, Crown XLS 1002, 2- 15" Eminence Wheelhouse speakers, ShoBud Pedal, Effects Pedals. 1949 Epiphone D-8. |
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Bobby D. Jones
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 6 Jul 2024 7:40 pm
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| A GFI S12 Ultra Keyed head with 7p/5kl weighs 49 lb. in case. |
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Melody Freeman
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 6 Jul 2024 9:14 pm
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Bobby, thank you. Do you know what it weighs excluding the case?
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Melody Freeman
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Illinois, USA
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Posted 6 Jul 2024 9:15 pm
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Dennis, thank you for the info.
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Fred Treece
From:
California, USA
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Melody Freeman
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 7 Jul 2024 10:36 am
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Fred, thank you for the info.
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 8 Jul 2024 12:16 am
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The Excel and Williams are two of the lightest, which is why I have one of each. I weighed them both at some point but I've lost the results.
The Excel is built from aluminium, but the Williams is a traditional maple box design, so more of an achievement - although it has a heavier and larger case. I keep it set up at home and gig the Excel.
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Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs |
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Greg Cutshaw
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Corry, PA, USA
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Fred Treece
From:
California, USA
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Posted 8 Jul 2024 8:14 am
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| The case for my Williams 700 S12 weighs 23lb. |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 8 Jul 2024 8:15 am
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Williams 700 series S-12:
weighs 26.9 pounds and the case weighs 31.1 pounds. |
Wow! Really Greg? Is this a road case?
How about yours Fred? |
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Fred Treece
From:
California, USA
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Posted 8 Jul 2024 8:44 am
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| I think Greg’s info on the Williams must be outdated. 23 pounds is still a lot, but it’s not 31. And it is a good solid road-worthy case on wheels that I am very happy with. The only thing I don’t like about it is the fuzzy covering. Whoever thought up that idea has never done an outdoor gig. |
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 8 Jul 2024 10:20 am
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According to the GFI website, the U-12 weighs 30 lbs. (guitar only).
I have a GFI S-10 Ultra keyless, which as I recall weighs 26 lbs., so an additional four lbs. for the U-12 sounds about right.
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Melody Freeman
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 8 Jul 2024 6:43 pm
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Thank you all for the info! Much appreciated!
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Douglas Schuch
From:
Valencia, Philippines
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Posted 10 Jul 2024 4:55 am
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I made a chart almost 11 years ago listing the weights of various pedal steels that I could find info on - both reported here on the forum, or from websites. It's no doubt a bit dated now, but still worth a look. Go to this post and scroll to the bottom of the first page:
https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=235666&highlight=weight
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Melody Freeman
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 10 Jul 2024 5:24 am
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Wow Douglas, thank you for the info! It is nice to have a list to compare the steels.
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Richard Alderson
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 10 Jul 2024 7:15 am
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There's a nice 12 string GFI on sale right now if you are in a hurry - immaculate condition ! If were in your position and I had time to wait, I would check out a new Excel !
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Derby SD-10 5x6; GFI S-10 5x5; GFI S-10 5x5; Zum D-10 8x7; Zum D-10 9x9; Fender 400; Fender Rumble 200; Nashville 400; Telonics TCA-500. |
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Melody Freeman
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 10 Jul 2024 7:24 am
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Richard, thank you. I just bought an old MSA Universal to see if I’m a 12’er. If I end up liking that, I might sell it and buy a newer U12.
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Dennis Detweiler
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Solon, Iowa, US
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Posted 10 Jul 2024 10:32 am
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The older maple body MSA's are excellent guitars mechanically and tone. It's just heavier than most newer guitars. I have a 1975 with X12 pickup and a 1976 with 427 pickup. I wouldn't trade either one for a new one. I just have to sacrifice the weight factor. My cases have wheels and a handle.
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1976 Birdseye U-12 MSA with Telonics 427 pickup, 1975 Birdseye U-12 MSA with Telonics X-12 pickup, Revelation preamp, Carbon Copy Delay and Hall Of Fame Reverb, Crown XLS 1002, 2- 15" Eminence Wheelhouse speakers, ShoBud Pedal, Effects Pedals. 1949 Epiphone D-8. |
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Melody Freeman
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 10 Jul 2024 5:57 pm
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Dennis, do you know how heavy your MSA is when it is all set up without the case?
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Dennis Detweiler
From:
Solon, Iowa, US
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Posted 10 Jul 2024 7:44 pm
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I'm not sure how much it weighs? My bathroom scale is digital and quit working.
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1976 Birdseye U-12 MSA with Telonics 427 pickup, 1975 Birdseye U-12 MSA with Telonics X-12 pickup, Revelation preamp, Carbon Copy Delay and Hall Of Fame Reverb, Crown XLS 1002, 2- 15" Eminence Wheelhouse speakers, ShoBud Pedal, Effects Pedals. 1949 Epiphone D-8. |
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