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Nick Krol

 

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Rhode Island, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jun 2024 7:41 am    
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Can anyone with one of these guitars show/explain what's going on with the new top row of holes? I know it's for tuning splits but I'm very curious how it's achieved. Pics/drawings would be greatly appreciated.

I've seen pictures of the two original push pulls that had those holes that I believe were made for Buddy and Weldon. Is it the same concept?

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Silas Hamilton


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Post  Posted 7 Jun 2024 6:17 pm    
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Yes it’s the same concept. It is for split tuning capabilities.
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Kelcey ONeil


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Sevierville, TN
Post  Posted 8 Jun 2024 5:22 am    
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Nick,

The third row of screws harks back to 1964 while the Emmons guitar was still being developed, and the intent was indeed meant to enable split tuning. We do use the hardware for splits, as well an effective means of tuning the 2nd string feel stop at the enplate.
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Nick Krol

 

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Post  Posted 9 Jun 2024 12:05 pm    
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Thanks guys

Kelcey, are you willing to share how you achieved that? I'm very familiar with how pushpulls work and have done multiple teardowns and rebuilds/mods, but it's not clear to me how a third row of screws in that location could facilitate split tuning with the traditional push pull changer. Seems like any method of stopping the fingers somewhere in the middle of the throw would also get in the way of the full raise/lowers
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Nick Krol

 

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Post  Posted 16 Aug 2024 7:03 am    
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Still very curious how this works
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Kelcey ONeil


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Post  Posted 16 Aug 2024 10:08 am    
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Nick,

It's a bit tough to explain without visuals, but in essence it works like an all pull in that the split screws tune the lowest note. Rather than using the nylon on the string being lowered to tune the split, the middle row of screws is used instead.

There are mechanical consideration made in the setup to accomplish this and it has to be done intentionally, just employing the split screws alone doesn't do it.
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J D Sauser


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Post  Posted 18 Aug 2024 5:30 am    
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I believe Mike Cass made a name for himself in the late 90's converting some original PP's adding the 3rd row for "Split Tuning" when he started rebuilding many of these guitars. It was discussed at great extent back then on here, maybe some of that chatter can still be unearthed with a Forum Search.

The question may not so much be if it can be achieved and how, after all, these guitars were build in a time period when America prepared to send a man onto the moon, but rather if it won't affect the tonal characteristics expected from a PP negatively (?).

... J-D.
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