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Topic: anyone use a wound 6th string on E9? |
Michael Dulin
From: Indiana, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2024 5:33 am
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anyone use a wound 6th string on E9? why yes, why no, what size...clue me in.MD |
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mtulbert
From: Plano, Texas 75023
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Posted 25 Jan 2024 5:42 am
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I do. Lots of others do as well. Lloyd G for example.
Main reason for me is that it is a better timbre transition from the higher pitched strings on a steel to the lower strings.
For many players as well it eliminates some cabinet drop and wankiness (for lack of a better term) of the characteristics of a steel 6th string.
Drawback is that it does require more travel to raise and lower the string than the steel 6th. Gauge that I use is a 24 but a 22 can work as well.
YMMV
Regards, _________________ Mark T
Infinity D-10 Justice SD-10 Judge Revelation Octal Preamp, Fractal AXE III, Fender FRFR 12 |
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Jon Light (deceased)
From: Saugerties, NY
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Posted 25 Jan 2024 8:54 am
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Many many linear feet of written word on the SGF on the ad & dis advantages of plain & wound 6th strings. |
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Tucker Jackson
From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2024 10:38 am
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Tuning stability: you tune it to G# and it stays there.
Don't know why the plain 6th, of all strings, does that wandering thing where it moves all over the place... so I use a .022w. |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 25 Jan 2024 11:09 am
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I use a .022 plain, and it doesn't wander. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 55 years and still counting. |
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Larry Allen
From: Kapaa, Kauai,Hawaii
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Posted 25 Jan 2024 11:30 am
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Using a plain for 40 years..never any problem. Always in tune. _________________ Excel steels & Peavey amps,Old Chevys & Motorcycles & Women on the Trashy Side |
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Ian Rae
From: Redditch, England
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Posted 25 Jan 2024 11:50 am
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I used a 22w when I played a D10 as I liked the sound.
When I switched to U12 it didn't sound right in the B6 tuning so I went plain.
I raise it to A# and lower it to F#, and it doesn't wander. _________________ Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs |
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Jerry Overstreet
From: Louisville Ky
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Posted 25 Jan 2024 12:02 pm
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Seems the 6th string is the limbo point or bastard string gauge where the plain and wound conflict begins.
There are good points for either. The mellower thinkers seem to gravitate to wound while players who like a snappier, brighter tone prefer the plain. |
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Colin Boutilier
From: Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 25 Jan 2024 12:37 pm
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Someone, like myself, learning the ropes on a Carter Starter are using a Wound 6th because we don't have a choice! _________________ Carter Starter, Austin dobro, B/G Bender Telecaster, '75 Twin Reverb, '75 Super Reverb 1x15 |
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Jack Hanson
From: San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 25 Jan 2024 12:50 pm
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Richard Sinkler wrote: |
I use a .022 plain, and it doesn't wander. |
Me too. |
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Dave Mudgett
From: Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 25 Jan 2024 1:31 pm
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As Jon said - this has been hacked over many, many times here. Do a search and you'll find lots more opinions and reasoning.
Unless you want the 6th string whole-tone lower with reasonable lever travel, I think it's personal tonal preference. Personally, I would not live without the whole-tone 6th string lower, and I prefer the plain tonally anyway. As long as I keep the roller nut lubed properly, haven't had any particular problem with pitch wandering - at least any more than other strings. I use a .020 or .022 plain, depending on the guitar. I think I prefer .020 usually, but I've had a guitar or two that seemed to like the .022 better.
Except on a skinny little '73 Sho Bud 6139 Rack and Barrel S10, I haven't had any particular problem with cabinet drop with the unwound 6th. So I put on the wound 6th on that Bud and traded for a Heritage H-575 archtop. The steel sounded great, and played well too - but didn't do what I want setup-wise. |
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Michael Dulin
From: Indiana, USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2024 4:51 pm wound 6
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thanks for all responses...I'll look in to past posts as suggested. wandering tuning on 6th is why I'm asking. just won't stabilize. I have removed lower pull rod to isolate the raise...doesn't help. when I wiggle tuning wrench it will return to in tune but will be out again next B pedal activation.MD |
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Bobby D. Jones
From: West Virginia, USA
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Posted 26 Jan 2024 9:43 pm
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Most guitars have to be set up and adjusted to use a solid string, Or adjusted and set up for a wound string. A wound string has to travel further to obtain raise or lower note.
You can't just up and change from wound to plain, Or plain to wound and expect the guitar to work proper. |
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Donny Hinson
From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 28 Jan 2024 7:43 pm
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I generally used a .024 wound for the 6th. A plain string there can sound “boingy”, sometimes. I also liked the idea of having a wound major triad, since I did a lot of what they used to call “tip rhythm” when there was no rhythm guitar or keyboard. It just seemed to voice better behind the lead guitar. |
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Skip Edwards
From: LA,CA
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Posted 29 Jan 2024 10:31 am
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I went to a 22W on all my steels when I switched from lowering 6 a whole step to raising 7 a whole step.
No complaints...I like the way it feels and sounds. |
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Steve Mueller
From: Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
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Posted 29 Jan 2024 8:17 pm
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I started using a wound 6th because my '73 Sho Bud came that way and stuck with it. I use a .024W on my Williams E9th necks. Rock solid tuning stability, nearly zero cabinet drop with A pedal, 2 cents with A and B. I don't lower 6th, I raise the 7th a half and a whole step on different knees. _________________ 2016 Williams D12 8 x 8, 2015 Williams D12 8 x 8, 2023 Williams S12 4 x 5, Milkman Amps, 1974 Gibson Byrdland |
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