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Topic: Rickenbacher B6 grounding |
Eric Dahlhoff
From: Point Arena, California
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Posted 17 Dec 2023 5:20 pm
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Happy Holidays!
I've got a B6 "Panda" with celluloid white plates. I'm assuming war-time build. Really fun to play.
But... in some circumstances I get the typical single-coil pickup buzz, unless I touch the pickup or jack, etc.
How do people ground the strings on these?
Thanks _________________ "To live outside the law you must be honest." (Bob Dylan) |
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Tim Whitlock
From: Colorado, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2023 7:01 pm
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Here is a a shot of the wiring on mine. Hope this helps.
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Rick Aiello
From: Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2023 8:50 am
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Some folks fabricate a thin metal shim to put on ... Between the ball end and the loading Bakelite area ... Then run a wire from that to the sleeve of the 1/4" jack ...
I've seen other folks weave a thin gauge wire around the strings between the bridge and the body and run it to the jack.
A simple option is to get one of those static electricity bracelets for working on sensitive electronics ... put it on and run it to the jack ... I do this on my prewar bakelites in winter sometimes ... when it's really dry and staticky.
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Eric Dahlhoff
From: Point Arena, California
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Posted 18 Dec 2023 9:57 am static
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Thanks Tim, but mine has plastic plates not metal.
Thanks for the ideas Rick. I think I'll try a piece of copper tape behind the bridge and a wire to the pickup mount. I do like the idea of the anti-static wrist band _________________ "To live outside the law you must be honest." (Bob Dylan) |
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Mike Neer
From: NJ
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Posted 18 Dec 2023 11:52 am
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This is how I did it. I didn't want to do any further mods to this guitar, so a simple wire to the bridge.
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Jim Kennedy
From: Brentwood California, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2023 2:11 pm
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The bridge must be grounded to reduce the hum. Any way you can get from the bridge to another ground point should work. Make sure you have a solid connection. _________________ ShoBud Pro 1, 75 Tele, 85 Yamaha SA 2000, Fender Cybertwin, |
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Rick Aiello
From: Berryville, VA USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2023 3:11 pm
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That's the issue with prewar and "wartime" Bakelites ... the bridge is integrated bakelite ... |
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Jim Kennedy
From: Brentwood California, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2023 5:42 pm
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Looks versus functionality. The way Mike Neer did it will work just fine. If you can find a more elegant way, go for it. If the bridge isn't grounded, the strings act like an antenna, picking up any spurious noise floating around.
I worked on a mid 70's Fender P Bass once. Original owner for 20 years was having serious hum issues. Multi meter showed the bridge was not grounded. The ground wire came up through a hole in the body and was merely laying under the bridge plate. Over time the wire had depressed into the wood and oxidized just enough to lose the ground. I soldered a star washer to the wire, made sure a screw went through the washer. 20 years later, still works great. If you want to reduce the hum, you have to ground the bridge. _________________ ShoBud Pro 1, 75 Tele, 85 Yamaha SA 2000, Fender Cybertwin, |
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Jim Kennedy
From: Brentwood California, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2023 5:48 pm
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Read the post over again. Are the saddles for the strings bakelite? If that's the case your kind of stuck. I am an electronics tech, but have no experience with these old guitars. _________________ ShoBud Pro 1, 75 Tele, 85 Yamaha SA 2000, Fender Cybertwin, |
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Eric Dahlhoff
From: Point Arena, California
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Posted 18 Dec 2023 9:46 pm B6 grounding
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Yes, the saddle/bridge is all part of the bakelite body. Not a spec of metal there!
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Stephen Cowell
From: Round Rock, Texas, USA
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Posted 18 Dec 2023 9:58 pm Re: B6 grounding
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Eric Dahlhoff wrote: |
Yes, the saddle/bridge is all part of the bakelite body. Not a spec of metal there!
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See if this doesn't make sense:
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Eric Dahlhoff
From: Point Arena, California
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Posted 19 Dec 2023 9:20 am grounding rod
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Stephen, that's perfect! Much better than my idea of copper tape.
I love this forum!
Thanks! _________________ "To live outside the law you must be honest." (Bob Dylan) |
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Bill Sinclair
From: Waynesboro, PA, USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2023 11:44 am
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The late great Mike Auldridge used a paper clip!
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Eric Dahlhoff
From: Point Arena, California
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Posted 19 Dec 2023 1:34 pm ground the strings
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The paper clip is a great idea too!
Here's what I did. It has the advantage of grounding all the strings.
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Bill Groner
From: QUAKERTOWN, PA
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Posted 19 Dec 2023 3:19 pm
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Nice job Eric, Looks nice....like you can hardly see it! 😀 _________________ Currently own, 6 Groner-tone lap steels, one 1953 Alamo Lap steel, Roland Cube, Fender Champion 40 |
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Stephen Cowell
From: Round Rock, Texas, USA
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Posted 20 Dec 2023 9:24 pm Re: ground the strings
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Eric Dahlhoff wrote: |
The paper clip is a great idea too!
Here's what I did. It has the advantage of grounding all the strings. |
Great job Eric... glad to be of service! Couldn't have done it better myself. _________________ New FB Page: Lap Steel Licks And Stuff: https://www.facebook.com/groups/195394851800329 |
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