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Topic: For push/pull gurus in the know... |
Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 29 Nov 2023 9:40 am |
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| ...how much would its weight be reduced by converting a '73 Emmons D-10 fatback into a loafer (SD-10)? |
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Mike Vallandigham
From:
Martinez, CA
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Posted 29 Nov 2023 1:07 pm
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Not enough to justify bastardizing a nice vintage instrument.
IMO only. |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 29 Nov 2023 1:23 pm
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I’d guess 8 or 9 pounds.
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Ken Pippus
From:
Langford, BC, Canada
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Posted 29 Nov 2023 2:00 pm
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| I’m with Mike. |
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Dave Campbell
From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 29 Nov 2023 2:41 pm
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| i figure 8 or 9 pounds is about right. i think if you save all the parts and don't drill any holes in it, there isn't much of a downside. i've been considering getting a push pull that needs an overhaul and converting it. |
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Dave Grafe
From:
Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 29 Nov 2023 3:21 pm
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| Keep the back neck and put alloy legs on it if you must cut pounds |
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Ben Lawson
From:
Brooksville Florida
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Posted 29 Nov 2023 8:04 pm
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| Jack my '76 D10 P/P (9 & 7) got real heavy after health issues. I bought a '71 P/P S10 and the weight difference isn't worth reworking a classic. I'm not much of a C6th player, but it's more comforting having a backup neck if you break a string on the E9th. I did that once before going 'on air' during a live TV show. |
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Steve Rosko
From:
Georgetown, Texas
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Posted 30 Nov 2023 6:26 am
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If carrying it out is a concern, split cases are a big help.
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84 Emmons D10 PP, MSA D10, Goodrich Omni, Little Walter PF89, PF-350 cabs, BlueSky, BJS |
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Skip Edwards
From:
LA,CA
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Posted 30 Nov 2023 12:10 pm
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I'm with Mike on this.
I would never consider doing that to my '74 fatback...no matter how heavy it is.
Personally, I'd just look around for a Loafer, or a S10.
JMHO.... |
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Jack Hanson
From:
San Luis Valley, USA
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Posted 1 Dec 2023 8:26 am
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Thanks to everyone for your opinions and answers. For the record:
1) Yes, I have a '73 D-10 fatback that I purchased from Clem Schmitz in Mpls circa 1977.
2) No, I have absolutely no intention of removing its C6 components.
3) I was merely curious what the savings in weight would be; 8 - 9 lbs. seems insignificant.
4) I would agree that most modifications, and especially the stripping a vintage instrument of its components, is a borderline crime against humanity. |
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Henry Matthews
From:
Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 7 Dec 2023 2:45 pm
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I’m with Mike also. Do not destroy a nice D-10 for a few lbs. Too much of it going on already. Probably not in my lifetime but if people keep doing it, nice old D-10’s are going to be hard to find, especially Emmons push pulls.
If you don’t play C 6th, trade or buy you a single 10 or just put aluminum legs on it. About same weight difference as removing C neck.
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Henry Matthews
D-10 Magnum, 8 &5, dark rose color
D-10 1974 Emmons cut tail, fat back,rosewood, 8&5
Nashville 112 amp, Fishman Loudbox Performer amp, Hilton pedal, Goodrich pedal,BJS bar, Kyser picks, Live steel Strings. No effects, doodads or stomp boxes. |
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Bruce Bouton
From:
Nash. Tn USA
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Posted 11 Dec 2023 3:19 pm
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A split case was life changing. Now , as to who is making them these days.
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Bruce Bouton
From:
Nash. Tn USA
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Posted 11 Dec 2023 3:26 pm
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A split case was life changing. Now , as to who is making them these days.
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www.brucebouton.com |
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Ben Lawson
From:
Brooksville Florida
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Posted 11 Dec 2023 8:19 pm
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Bruce, I got my split cases from Kevin Hatton.
I've had split cases for well over 10 years. As I got older, they feel heavier too. I went through some serious health issues and between radiation and medication, I just can't do what I used to do. I bought an S10 P/P but it's in a single original Emmons S10 case and it doesn't have wheels on it. Sometimes we just have to recognize our new limits. |
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Dave Campbell
From:
Nova Scotia, Canada
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Posted 12 Dec 2023 3:17 pm
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| i've begun puttng the legs and pedal bar in a tripod bag. it helps. |
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Willis Vanderberg
From:
Petoskey Mi
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Posted 12 Dec 2023 5:07 pm
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Just for the record, Wade Thomas is back in business and taking orders for cases..
Great news. |
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Jim Palenscar
From:
Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 14 Dec 2023 8:23 am
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| I'm thinkin that each pedal train is about 2#, then the changer is about 3#, neck 2, keyhead w tuners 1- about the weight of the pad so more like 15# is my guess. |
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Dyke Corson
From:
Fairmount, IL USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2023 5:32 pm
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| The bag for a Martin backpacker travel guitar fits pedal rack and legs perfectly. The Gator 49 keyboard rigid padded keyboard bag works great for the D-10 body. You just can't stack stuff on it. |
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 20 Dec 2023 9:35 am
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Are you playing the C neck enough to carry the extra weight?
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'70 D10 Black fatback Emmons PP, Hilton VP, BJS bars, Boss GE-7 for Dobro effect, Zoom MS50G, Stereo Steel amp, Telonics 15” speaker.
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