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Dale Rottacker


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Post  Posted 11 Nov 2023 7:48 am    
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Just saw a post from Guy Cundell where he made a really nice Tab of him playing this on a Resonator. I had mentioned that I had tabbed and posted this for E9th sometime back, but must've lost my mind, cause I can't find it, and not wanting to have misspoke I'll post it WITH TAB now.

Before I picked up this new MSA (Jolly Rancher) I was asked to come down and make sure it was too my liking.

So I spent a week with my "Brother" Scott Anderson from MSA, over at his house putting the guitar to the test. I've never had a more PERFECT guitar, as I didn't need to do anything to it, it just fit. Anyhow I was playing When You Wish Upon A Star in Scotts studio just messing around and Scott said, "why don't you tab that out so the rest of us can know what you're doing". I'm not a fan of Tab, and even less of a fan of Tabbing, but I'd do just about anything for Scotty ... So here t'is (Please forgive the poor Color, this guitar is GORGEOUS and I was, sometime still am having trouble with lighting and getting color right)

Just remembered why I couldn't find it here... I kept getting a DEBUG prompt when trying to upload the pictures of the TAB ... so I put them up on DropBox and hopefully you can download from the link below. ... Just checked and the link works ... but the 3 pages may be out of order, but you'll figure it out.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-apvy9fSXcs
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Frank Freniere


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The First Coast
Post  Posted 11 Nov 2023 8:28 am    
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Just gorgeous, Dale - thanks!

And thanks for the good, clean look at your chiming technique - after 30+ years of using my knuckle, I'm going to have to change if I can consistently hit them like that.
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Dale Rottacker


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Post  Posted 12 Nov 2023 6:55 am    
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Frank Freniere wrote:
Just gorgeous, Dale - thanks!

And thanks for the good, clean look at your chiming technique - after 30+ years of using my knuckle, I'm going to have to change if I can consistently hit them like that.

Thank you Frank, I appreciate that ... I'll never be the "tabber" you are, yours always look great. This chiming technique is just a last few years thing. I'm not much of a chimer, but when I chimed it was mostly with my palm/edge of hand or knuckle. The issue I had with both those methods was having to know how many frets I had to be ahead of where my palm or knuckle was, all the while not being able to really see what fret my palm or knuckle was. Then I was watching Travis Toy chiming and he was using the tip of his finger. Well that made chiming so much easier (I'm still not a great chimer) that I could hardly believe it. NOW I can see where the "chime" frets are 3,4,5,7,9,12 ahead of where the bar is, because I can see the tip of either my little or ring finger tip. I'm no longer blocking the view of the chime frets with the back of my hand. Kind of a game changer for me.
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Ron Funk

 

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Ballwin, Missouri
Post  Posted 12 Nov 2023 11:46 am    
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Hi Dale

Excellent - just absolutely Excellent!

And I agree with Frank and your assessment of the chiming technique of just using the tip of pinky finger.

I just recently re-discovered that same technique via an old Paul Franklin DVD entitled "Musical Concepts for E9th" .....from 1999 !

And thanks again for re-posting this great clip

Regards

Ron Funk
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Larry Dering


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Post  Posted 12 Nov 2023 7:31 pm    
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Dale, beautiful job and wow that guitar looks and sounds awesome. Thanks for posting this again.
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Jim Cohen


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Post  Posted 13 Nov 2023 11:17 am    
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Lovely, Dale!!
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billy tam R.I.P.

 

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Post  Posted 13 Nov 2023 2:23 pm     When you wish
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Awesome job on a beautiful song. Great looking guitar with much more than acceptable tone. Lol
Loved it.
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Dale Rottacker


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Post  Posted 14 Nov 2023 6:59 am    
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Thank you Ron (And I agree with Frank and your assessment of the chiming technique of just using the tip of pinky finger.) ... something else I've tried is to use the top of fingernail itself ... a little harder to accomplish, but pretty clean chime when you hit it.

Larry (Dale, beautiful job and wow that guitar looks and sounds awesome.) my friend ... I've been challenged lately with my lack of videography skills ... you change one little lighting thing and everything changes ... this picture shows its beauty a little better.

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(Lovely, Dale!!) Thank you Jim

Billy, LOL (Awesome job on a beautiful song. Great looking guitar with much more than acceptable tone. Lol
Loved it.). THANK YOU!!! ... My recording methods have been a bit lacking lately among other things, so things don't sound recorded as well as they do live, but I'm working on it.

In case anyone missed the actual TAB I uploaded to Dropbox, I finally figured out how to change my tab pictures to a format the Forum can use, so here you go... learning is a process Embarassed









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Paul Mozen


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Post  Posted 16 Nov 2023 12:35 pm     wywuas
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Are you getting that F# WR with a slant?
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Dale Rottacker


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Walla Walla Washington, USA
Post  Posted 17 Nov 2023 5:41 am     Re: wywuas
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Paul Mozen wrote:
Are you getting that F# WR with a slant?

Hey Paul, ... No slant, my RKL raises the 7th string both a half AND a whole with a feel stop. On my RKL, I'm also raising the 1st string a half and a whole and the 2nd string a half, as well a raising the 9th string a half. AND lowering the 3rd string on the C6th, and its not as heavy a feel as you might think.
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*2021 MSA Legend, "Jolly Rancher" D10 10x9
*2021 Rittenberry, "The Concord" D10 9x9
*1977 Blue Sho-Bud Pro 3 Custom 8x6
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David Wisson

 

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Post  Posted 23 Nov 2023 12:36 pm    
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Hi Dale I liked that. Some lovely chords and great arrangement. I have often thought of having a go after hearing Chet's version. Where do you find the time to work it all out, record, film and Tab it. Well done you. Dave Very Happy
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Dale Rottacker


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Post  Posted 24 Nov 2023 7:38 am    
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David Wisson wrote:
Hi Dale I liked that. Some lovely chords and great arrangement. I have often thought of having a go after hearing Chet's version. Where do you find the time to work it all out, record, film and Tab it. Well done you. Dave Very Happy

Thank you David. I did this sort of thing before I was retired, but now that I am, it's easier to do. I get a kick out of being in my studio trying to "work stuff out".
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*2021 MSA Legend, "Jolly Rancher" D10 10x9
*2021 Rittenberry, "The Concord" D10 9x9
*1977 Blue Sho-Bud Pro 3 Custom 8x6
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Paul Mozen


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Post  Posted 12 Dec 2023 1:08 pm    
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Thank you Dale. I already raise my 1 and 2 with RKL. I'm gonna add the low f# to that lever. I see how useful that can be....
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