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Topic: Excel Superb Parts HELP oh no |
Glenn Demichele
From: (20mi N of) Chicago Illinois, USA
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Posted 8 Jul 2023 6:23 am
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I have an Excel Superb D10 which Mitsuo built for me in 2018. I love this amazing guitar, but last night I was just gently tweaking the E9 9th string RKR D to Db lower on the and it wasn't moving. I pulled gently on the nylon tuning nut and the whole nylon & rod assy easily slipped out. The threaded portion of the rod looks nearly smooth, and I can hardly see any threads in the barrel's hole that slips into the bellcrank. It's hard to believe I could have stripped it out. Its as if there were always barely any threads, and they finally somehow just let go. So, does anybody have a replacement Nylon & rod & barrel they can sell me?
The nylon & rod is about 6" (15.5cm) long.
In the first pic, its on the first bellcrank just below the center of the guitar.
![](https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix2203/12568_Excel3_1.jpg) _________________ Franklin D10 8&5, Excel D10 8&5. Both amazing guitars! Homemade buffer/overdrive with adjustable 700Hz "Fender" scoop., Moyo pedal, GT-001 effects, 2x TDA7294 80W class AB amps, or 2x BAM200 for stereo. TT12 and BW1501 each in its own closed back wedge. Also NV400 etc. etc... |
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Ross Shafer
From: Petaluma, California
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Posted 8 Jul 2023 6:49 am
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I could be wrong on this, but it appears that the other intact rod/bellcrank assemblies have no threads at the bell crank end. I'm pretty sure there's a set screw in one end of the bell crank bushing that tightens against the Rod to hold it in place. This is far more common than a threaded bushing in that location...Older Sierras are the only rigs I've seen with a solid hex tuner that turns a rod threaded on the bell crank end.
it also appears that the nylon on the rod in question is well bottomed out on its threads which probably caused the rod to start spinning at the bell crank end. The marks on the rod at that end look more like it was spinning against its locking set screw. |
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Jim Palenscar
From: Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 8 Jul 2023 7:23 am
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In general- the only threaded rods in later Excels are under the cross shaft- as there is basically no access and they use Delrin keepers. On top of the cross shafts it has been my experience that they are all trapped by a set screw in the end like Ross says. |
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Glenn Demichele
From: (20mi N of) Chicago Illinois, USA
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Posted 8 Jul 2023 7:44 am
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You guys are geniuses, and I am not! Thank goodness for the SGF. YES YES: The threads are between the nylon tuner and the rod, and there is a set screw in the barrel that I couldn't see until I removed the barrel.
Phew!!
![](https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/userpix2203/12568_Excel4_1.jpg) _________________ Franklin D10 8&5, Excel D10 8&5. Both amazing guitars! Homemade buffer/overdrive with adjustable 700Hz "Fender" scoop., Moyo pedal, GT-001 effects, 2x TDA7294 80W class AB amps, or 2x BAM200 for stereo. TT12 and BW1501 each in its own closed back wedge. Also NV400 etc. etc... |
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