Thinking about a trade. Am I crazy?

Jarrett White · From: Clyde Texas, USA

Hey y’all, so I have a gorgeous D10 Mullen PRP. I don’t play C6 and gig with it a lot. It’s a lot of guitar to carry to gigs and practice and such. Am I crazy for wanting to trade it for an upscale SD10? What would you think the trade value is? I know I’ve already got one of the best guitars out there, and I love the way it plays, I just feel like I don’t need the c6 neck and don’t really want to convert it to an SD10. What’s your thoughts?

Frank Freniere · From: The First Coast

Why not move to a S-10? Why lug around the extra weight of a SD-10?

Donny Hinson · From: Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.

Just do it. No sense having something you don't need.

Jerry Overstreet · From: Louisville Ky

No, of course you're not crazy nor the first to consider this.

I just don't see that you're going to gain that much by dumping your D10 for an SD10. Just a few pounds in weight from the lack of C6 components.

If you like the guitar you have now, the way it plays and sounds, I would encourage you to hang on to it. The next guitar you get in a trade may not feel, sound or play the same. I can attest that guitars even of the same manufacturer have differences...sometimes major ones. Even the appearance of a guitar is important to a lot of us.

Try to get some use out of the back neck. What have you to lose?

Otherwise, I would agree with Frank's suggestion. Just sell the D10 and get one of Mullen's single body S10 guitars. Slimmer body, less stuff to get in your way.

Skip Edwards · From: LA,CA

I played a S10 for many years. I got a D10, not because I had any great desire to learn and play C6, I got it just because...well, just because I always wanted one.
The first session I took it to, they wanted a lap steel vibe.
So...you guessed it. C6 did the trick right off. And I really didn't know what I was doing... just easy stuff without touching the pedals.

You never know when that back neck will come in handy.
That's my story & I'm sticking to it.

Bobby D. Jones · From: West Virginia, USA

When the back neck is taken off most D10 guitars, You lose between 8 and 12 lb. Between Key Head, Changer, Cross Shafts, Bell Cranks and Rods. Pull Rod size, Cross Rod rod size and what they are made of makes a big big difference in weight loss.
The size of the guitar and case would be the same.

When I turned 75, I went to a S12 Universal Tuning, If I get the urge I can play C6th I can play B6th 1 fret up the neck. In case weighs 49 lb. I sold 1 heavy guitar, Right now I am reworking a D10 Weighs 85lb. in case. It is going to be leaving here too.

Ricky Davis · From: Bertram, Texas USA

NO; you are not Crazy.
Playing pedal steel guitar is a very personal thing, that satisfys your musical passion. You HAVE TO have and play an instrument that is the SOUND in your head and the perfect fit for you in a ergonomically way, and of course financial way. Only YOU know that answer to how to obtain that; and you will know when you do and NEVER look back; Go forward as Music leads you.
Ricky
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Chris Brooks · From: Providence, Rhode Island

Jarrett, I had a couple of S 10s and realized that I wasn't playing any even rudimentary C 6: so I bought an SD 12 and love it. There's a world of music in the extended E 9 tuning.

And the weight difference is a relief as I get older!

Quentin Hickey · From: Nova Scotia, Canada

Yes! You are now an official steel guitar player (like the rest of most of us) , welcome!

Larry Baker · From: Columbia, Mo. U.S.A.

you are not crazy. If you like a Mullen as I do, and just want to lighten the load, I would stick with Mullen and go with a Discovery, a complete pro model guitar. You will love it. Good luck on your decision.
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Bob Carlucci · From: Candor, New York, USA

I'd simply swap it straight across for a seriously good S10.. You just won't save much weight or space by getting an SD 10..... You will adjust to the size difference in a short time....
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Jarrett White · From: Clyde Texas, USA

Thanks for the replies fellas, still not quite sure if I want to do it or not, but most likely will try to swap it for a single. Appreciate the input, I’m glad I’m not crazy haha!

Bobby Snell · From: Austin, Texas

Some players prefer an SD10 model; it seems as though fewer S10s are bought and sold here. Best wishes for you to find even more happiness in your choice.

Dave Mudgett · From: Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee

No you're not crazy. If you're absolutely sure you'll never play C6, maybe it's reasonable. Personally, I've never been that sure of anything like that. And while I was a pretty confirmed E9-only player for some time, I've been delving further into C6 the last few years. To me, a D10 opens up a lot of possibilities - I sorta' like the idea of leaving options open. So I guess my question is - is the weight difference really that big a deal to you?

I also factor it like this. If I have a really great guitar that I really love, I will not trade it for a pig-in-a-poke. I would want to be damn sure a new steel was every bit up to the snuff of the old one. And I really think it's a bad idea to disassemble a really good D10, especially one that isn't being made anymore like a PRP Mullen.

As far as SD-10 vs. S-10 - are you tall, medium-height, or short? If you're tall like me, you may well prefer an SD-10. The extra 5-10 pounds is no biggie for the massive improvement in ergonomics for me. But then again, I don't mind the additional 5-10 pounds of extra weight beyond that for a D10. A wheeled case or collapsible hand truck can make a big difference.

But if you're on the shorter side, an S10 may actually be preferable, ergonomically. I would suggest sitting behind a couple if you think that might be a good idea.

J R Rose · From: Keota, Oklahoma, USA

I would like to suggest you find someone that has a S-10 and ask them to let you set down at it and try it out. As a old timer here I can tell you that the S-10 will be very hard for you to adjust too after playing many years on a D-10. You are in the Dallas/Ft.Worth area and should be able to find someone that has one. Go to one of the monthly jamb's of the Texas Club. If you are bent on trading stay with a SD-10. And you may never find another guitar that has the sound you have now, each guitar has it's own built in sound broad output. J.R. Rose
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Steve Rosko · From: Georgetown, Texas

I'm with Skip. I use the C6 neck on older Hank Williams type songs. It also works on older Rock & Roll type songs. And its wonderful for Western Swing. I don't use pedals, only grips. All My Ex's is an example of a song I use it on and audiences love it and I'm not doing anything complicated. Can you get a C6 sound on the E9 neck, sure. But, since you already have it I suggest you experiment with it before selling. I was surprised how easy it was to get a Western Swing sound without really even knowing what I was doing Wink

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Anthony Parish · From: Austin

Jarrett, I was in the same boat as you. I had a great Emmons LeGrande D10 that I loved, but it I don't play C6, and it was just too much guitar to be hauling around all the time. I considered removing C6 neck and hardware from the LeGrande, and I generally got flamed by most people who chimed in on this forum Laughing

Also, I had an S10 Zumsteel Encore, but I couldn't get comfortable with the ergonomics -- the knee levers felt like they were too far away relative to my hands since were right under the E9 neck.

Finally, after patiently waiting for the right guitar to become available, I found a wonderful SD10 LeGrande and I couldn't be happier. It is somehwat lighter than the D10 (not a life-changer, but enough to make a difference), has the right ergonomics with the knee levers under the arm rest, and is simple to tear down and set up. There may com the day when I feel like I'm ready to really jump in and learn to play C6 tuning, but until then I'm happier with the SD10.

Best of luck!

Tony Parish

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