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Topic: Convert Push/Pull to an all Pull changer |
Abram Wenger
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Harrisonburg, Virginia, USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2023 8:00 pm |
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A Question-
How Strenuous is it to Convert Push/Pull to an all Pull changer?
Particularly ¨Fatbacks¨ - emmones s10s, and d10 that are Push/Pulls or any guitar that is one |
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Dave Zirbel
From:
Sebastopol, CA USA
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Posted 3 Jan 2023 8:49 pm
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Emmons made all pull guitars. I would recommend getting one if you can swing it. Push/pulls are desirable guitars. Im not an Emmons expert but changing to an all pull changer is a big job and your tone will change….my 2 cents…I’m sure you’ll hear from others.
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Sierra S-10 (Built by Ross Shafer),ZB, Fender 400 guitars, various tube and SS amps |
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Ken Pippus
From:
Langford, BC, Canada
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Posted 3 Jan 2023 8:59 pm
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| What Dave is saying very politely is don’t try to do something really stupid. |
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 4 Jan 2023 1:35 am
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I'm not an Emmons expert, but as I understand it a push-pull is defined by the mechanism from which it derives its cherished tone. You would be discarding its USP to create a nothing guitar.
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Per Berner
From:
Skovde, Sweden
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Posted 4 Jan 2023 6:19 am
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| You would need new endplates, a new changer and a whole new undercarriage. If you succeed, it will cost you well into four figures and you will simultaneously reduce the value of the guitar by at the very least 50 percent. So please don't. |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 4 Jan 2023 6:43 am
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Probably cheaper to just buy an all pull.
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Abram Wenger
From:
Harrisonburg, Virginia, USA
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Posted 4 Jan 2023 6:55 am Bad idea
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Jeff Peterson
From:
Nashville, TN USA
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Posted 12 Jan 2023 4:19 pm Convert Push/Pull to an all Pull changer
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| Don't do it! |
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Abram Wenger
From:
Harrisonburg, Virginia, USA
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Posted 12 Jan 2023 6:46 pm
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john buffington
From:
Owasso OK - USA
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Posted 12 Jan 2023 7:48 pm
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| I've a friend who had access to a single 10 wrap around in which Bobbe Seymour "converted it" to an all pull. Totally ruined the guitar for what it was. It sounded "ok" looked like crap with the "modifications he made, was a Frankensteel for sure" had tuning issues, in addition to everything parts. Instead of converting or modifying just buy you an all/pull and keep your piece of history intact IMO. |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 12 Jan 2023 10:11 pm
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It is really easy. Just sell your push pull and get a short keyhead LeGrande, which is a LeGrande built on a push pull cabinet.
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colin mcintosh
From:
Australia
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Posted 13 Jan 2023 12:23 am
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| Will you take $50 for the old parts? |
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Johnie King
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 13 Jan 2023 8:24 am
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| Chris is 100 percent right. Also I did not know this Fact. |
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 13 Jan 2023 9:37 am
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| Paul Franklin (Sr) converted one for Buddy Emmons. Used Franklin changers and not sure what all underneath. Paul told me Buddy loved it. This was during the EMCI time and according to Paul, Buddy took it to the EMCI shop and told them to make the EMCI sound like the Franklin conversion. |
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Johnny Cox
From:
Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 13 Jan 2023 8:17 pm
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Don't do it. It will no longer sound like a push pull.
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Johnny Cox
From:
Williamsom WVA, raised in Nashville TN, Lives in Hallettsville Texas
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Posted 13 Jan 2023 8:19 pm
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| Jack Stoner wrote: |
| Paul Franklin (Sr) converted one for Buddy Emmons. Used Franklin changers and not sure what all underneath. Paul told me Buddy loved it. This was during the EMCI time and according to Paul, Buddy took it to the EMCI shop and told them to make the EMCI sound like the Franklin conversion. |
I played that guitar several times at Buddy's house. It sounded more like a Franklin than an Emmons.
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Johnny "Dumplin" Cox
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