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Topic: Emmons LL 10/6 Basketweave - legit? |
Bill McCloskey
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Posted 8 Jan 2023 7:55 am |
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There is a strange listing on reverb claiming to be a Emmons LL 10/6 Basketweave (although with black top, not baskeweave). Pictures are sketchy as is the claim. I understand these steels are rare as hens teeth. Anyone have any thoughts on this one? scam? https://reverb.com/item/64495948-emmons-ll-10-6-basketweave
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 8 Jan 2023 8:44 am
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Mike "Cookie" Jones, who played for Barbara Mandrell, did indeed have a Basket Weave Emmons. Looks legit.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 55 years and still counting.
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Richard Sinkler
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Posted 8 Jan 2023 8:45 am
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 55 years and still counting. |
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scott murray
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Asheville, NC
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Posted 8 Jan 2023 9:35 am
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at that price, you'd think he would include some actual photos of the guitar.
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1965 Emmons S-10, 3x5 • Emmons LLIII D-10, 10x12 • JCH D-10, 10x12 • Beard MA-8 • Oahu Tonemaster |
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Kelcey ONeil
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Sevierville, TN
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 8 Jan 2023 12:04 pm
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Here are some pics of the steel that the seller shared with me
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 8 Jan 2023 2:54 pm
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That definitely looks like Mike's basketweave guitar.
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 55 years and still counting. |
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Mike DiAlesandro
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Kent, Ohio
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Posted 8 Jan 2023 3:20 pm
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Tucker Jackson
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 8 Jan 2023 6:33 pm
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A gentleman on the "Emmons Pedal Steel Guitar Fans" Facebook page named Jim Fox posted three weeks ago that he had bought this guitar from Cookie's widow. Had one of the same photos he sent you, Bill, and a picture of the copedent paperwork dated 2008.
You have to expand all the hidden comments and replies to really follow the discussion here (and yes, he posted the wrong picture on his opening post of a different basketweave before he had actually received the steel -- which was pointed out and explained later):
https://www.facebook.com/groups/652555505255518/#
He's a forum member, lives in the same town listed on the Reverb.com page, and has posted once here saying he was a new player and was asking questions about an MCI. He may be a legit player, he may be a flipper, or something else. But either way, I do think he has Cookie's old guitar -- or at least is in possession of photos of it. One detail that makes me say that is that it has a knee lever flag on RKR (it's folded in the picture), same one visible on this Mandrel video of Cookie's guitar:
https://youtu.be/zHco8lCLWgk?t=91
We'll learn that he has the guitar in his possession when he posts additional custom photos of it from specific angles requested by somebody. Like, say, a close-up of that paper label on the inside of the cabinet. |
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 8 Jan 2023 8:11 pm
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| Karl Fox is the one I've been communicating with. Also with the same copedent pictures. |
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Tucker Jackson
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 8 Jan 2023 8:30 pm
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The internet (which is never wrong... heh) says his full name is Carl James Fox.
So, if he's "Karl" with a "K" to you, "Carl" with a "C" elsewhere, and Jim on the Forum and on the Emmons Facebook page, what's up with that? If he bought it to flip, that's fine. There's no reason to hide identity. |
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 9 Jan 2023 5:42 am
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There is something wrong about the whole sale. If you have such a rare instrument, why not take decent pictures if you are going to try and sell it. Karl Fox told me his daughter sent the pictures to him. Something wrong somewhere.
The listing has now been suspended. |
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scott murray
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Posted 9 Jan 2023 3:54 pm
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strange... it's still viewable and now has some of the same photos you posted Bill, plus a copedent chart. appears to have 8 knee levers
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1965 Emmons S-10, 3x5 • Emmons LLIII D-10, 10x12 • JCH D-10, 10x12 • Beard MA-8 • Oahu Tonemaster |
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 9 Jan 2023 4:34 pm
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| Maybe it got suspended for lack of photos. Anyway. Too weird for my blood. It could be legit, but too many red flags for me. |
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Johnie King
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Tennessee, USA
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Posted 9 Jan 2023 5:17 pm
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This was my 1973 Fat back push pull for a few months .
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 10 Jan 2023 5:50 am
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| After being briefly unsuspended, the listing is suspended again. |
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Mark van Allen
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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 10 Jan 2023 7:55 am
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| Do you have it listed Mark? |
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Mark van Allen
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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 10 Jan 2023 10:54 am
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Not yet, Bill. After a good while on Universal, I’ve gone back to mostly SD-10 on gigs and sessions.
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 10 Jan 2023 12:26 pm
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| That is beautiful Mark. |
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