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Topic: My volume pedal odyssey (Telonics, Hilton, Goodrich, more..) |
Roger Crawford
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Griffin, GA USA
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Posted 19 Sep 2022 4:57 am |
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| I would love to see the Goodrich OMNI included in the research. It can be used as active or passive. A selling point for me is that the active section can be battery powered, and one less item to plug in. |
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Tom Campbell
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Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted 19 Sep 2022 6:46 am
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I have used the electronic pedals and eventually sold them.
Went back to the pot pedals (Stage One). The Stage One is a light weight pedal and I isolate the pedal from the steel by runing it through the effects loop on my Evans amp.
Very satisfied with this setup. |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 19 Sep 2022 7:05 am
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| The Goodrich Omni probably should be in the mix somewhere. Its not a true electronic like the Hilton or Telonics which have no pot. The Omni is a hybrid as it has electronics but is still controlled by a pot. |
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 19 Sep 2022 7:26 am
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The important distinction is between active and passive.
A passive pot pedal will interact with the impedances it sees, and some people like the result. Once you decide to buffer it front and back it doesn't much matter what you use to control the gain. I imagine that Goodrich have enough expertise with pots not to feel the need to retool for anything else like IR or other sensors.
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 19 Sep 2022 7:02 pm
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| Long live the "tone sucking" pot pedal. Still the undisputed king of classic tone and mainstream recorded music. And the pedal that was designed electrically to sound great and work with most of the classic style pickups we use today. It's a system and set of gear that works well and is well matched to each other. I know there's newer stuff and I've enjoyed trying them out but I've ended back with the pot pedal. Newer is sometimes better and sometimes not. Gear that is electrically more correct or has better specs is sometimes better, often not. |
Funny, Telecasters also have those "tone sucking volume pots".
(Have you ever heard a Telecaster with great highs and good treble? Of course not! Everyone knows you can't get good highs with a silly pot in the circuit.  ) |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 20 Sep 2022 4:48 am
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| Donny Hinson wrote: |
| Greg Cutshaw wrote: |
| Long live the "tone sucking" pot pedal. Still the undisputed king of classic tone and mainstream recorded music. And the pedal that was designed electrically to sound great and work with most of the classic style pickups we use today. It's a system and set of gear that works well and is well matched to each other. I know there's newer stuff and I've enjoyed trying them out but I've ended back with the pot pedal. Newer is sometimes better and sometimes not. Gear that is electrically more correct or has better specs is sometimes better, often not. |
Funny, Telecasters also have those "tone sucking volume pots".
(Have you ever heard a Telecaster with great highs and good treble? Of course not! Everyone knows you can't get good highs with a silly pot in the circuit. ) |
I played with a lead guitar player for 20+ years that only played a Strat or Tele. He always turned the volume control to max on his guitars. That was to eliminate tone suck. He said a Nashville guitar player told him about that. |
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kevin ryan
From:
San Marcos, California
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Posted 20 Sep 2022 1:46 pm
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| I'm a Goodrich guy but have used them all and they all work great. My ear has gotten use to the sound of a pot. There is a midrange bump with a passive pedal that I hear and like. I have used these for almost 45 years with the steel guitar and hear a fatness to it. I agree that the Omni should be in the conversation. I use one in my guitar rig and one in my steel rig and I am a full time player. |
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Bill Duncan
From:
Lenoir, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 21 Sep 2022 3:10 am
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| I just ordered a Lehle pedal, I wish I had read Keith's post first. I would not have ordered it. |
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Donny Hinson
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Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 21 Sep 2022 5:30 am
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| Jack Stoner wrote: |
I played with a lead guitar player for 20+ years that only played a Strat or Tele. He always turned the volume control to max on his guitars. That was to eliminate tone suck. He said a Nashville guitar player told him about that. |
Almost sounds reasonable, Jack. But then, how do you explain all that classic stuff back in the '60s using pot pedals? Think of the early Emmons, Brumley, Myrick, Rugg, and Green playing, much of it with treble that would curl your hair! Far more treble than you'll ever hear these days...and that was before powered pedals, stomps, three-cord setups, and match boxes even came into being.
From where I sit, there was a sparkle and liveliness in steel tones back then that you just don't hear these days.
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Bill McCloskey
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Posted 21 Sep 2022 6:24 am
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| I play through a Kemper Profiler and I use the Mission Engineering pedal that attaches to it directly. You don't plug the guitar into the volume pedal, you plug directly into the kemper and the volume pedal has its own connection to the kemper. Love to hear more experienced reviews of this pedal and set up. comparing directly to my Goodrich, which is all I can compare it to, it is vastly superior. |
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 21 Sep 2022 7:12 am
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| Donny Hinson wrote: |
| Jack Stoner wrote: |
I played with a lead guitar player for 20+ years that only played a Strat or Tele. He always turned the volume control to max on his guitars. That was to eliminate tone suck. He said a Nashville guitar player told him about that. |
Almost sounds reasonable, Jack. But then, how do you explain all that classic stuff back in the '60s using pot pedals? Think of the early Emmons, Brumley, Myrick, Rugg, and Green playing, much of it with treble that would curl your hair! Far more treble than you'll ever hear these days...and that was before powered pedals, stomps, three-cord setups, and match boxes even came into being.
From where I sit, there was a sparkle and liveliness in steel tones back then that you just don't hear these days.
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I used pot pedals for 35 years and was happy with the tone. I switched to a Hilton around 2005/6 and only reason was to get away from the unreliable pots we had at the time. I liked the electronic pedal as I had the same tone at any volume level,
I never noticed the difference in sound between a pot and electronic until I used electronic and now switched back to a pot pedal, downgrading since I'm retired from bands. |
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Tom Langdon
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North Carolina, USA
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Posted 26 Sep 2022 12:32 pm Wanted: used Goodrich 120 volume pedal
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Does anyone have a good but used Goodrich 120 volume pedal for sale?
Contact Tom Langdon in NC at tomlangdon767@gmail.com |
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