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Topic: GFI SD10 pedals |
Bill Duncan
From: Lenoir, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 7 Jul 2022 9:50 am
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I have my new GFI like I want it, especially after installing the Alumatone. It now sounds much like the Trutone but no hum.
Playing out first time last night the B pedal broke at the 8/32 screw jamb nut joint. I believe the jamb nut may have been over tight. Is this breakage common or a rarity? Of course, from now on I will carry spare 8/32 screws and nuts. Before I get accused, I am not a pedal stomper. |
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K Maul
From: Hadley, NY/Hobe Sound, FL
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Posted 7 Jul 2022 10:55 am
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I’ve had 3-4 GFI guitars and never broke a pedal-or any part, for that manner. And I love Alumitone pickups. _________________ KEVIN MAUL: Airline, Beard, Clinesmith, Danelectro, Evans, Fender, GFI, Gibson, Hilton, Ibanez, Justice, K+K, Live Strings, MOYO, National, Oahu, Peterson, Quilter, Rickenbacher, Sho~Bud, Supro, TC, Ultimate, VHT, Williams, X-otic, Yamaha, ZKing. |
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Bill Duncan
From: Lenoir, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 7 Jul 2022 11:16 am
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K Maul wrote: |
I’ve had 3-4 GFI guitars and never broke a pedal-or any part, for that manner. And I love Alumitone pickups. |
Thank you, I am glad to hear that. I am fairly certain the jamb nut was too tight.
Of course before I noticed the pedal slop I tuned. |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 7 Jul 2022 11:25 am
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No issues with the 3 GFI's I've had.
What/where is the screw that broke?
I installed Lawrence 710's in the Ultra D-10 I had and installed a Lawrence 710 in my new Ultra S-10 with pad (SD10). |
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Bill Duncan
From: Lenoir, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 7 Jul 2022 12:53 pm
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[quote="Jack Stoner"]No issues with the 3 GFI's I've had.
What/where is the screw that broke?
Jack, the B pedal connecting screw going through the connecting rod ferrel broke at the jamb nut that tightens against the pedal side. The nut with part of the screw feii off with the broken end still in it. The remaining screw section backed out and remained in the ferrel on the connecting rod. Not a big problem other than I was not at home to replace the screw it was very easy to fix. |
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Bill Duncan
From: Lenoir, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 7 Jul 2022 6:53 pm
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After checking and giving a little thought I believe the ferrel was held tight by the axel screw being turned in too tight so that it didn't turn free when the pedal was pressed. That is what I believe would have caused it to break where it did.
I checked the other two and they are Ok and turn free. I will keep checking on them from now on to be sure they continue to turn free. I will still carry extra screws and nuts though. |
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Bobby D. Jones
From: West Virginia, USA
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Posted 7 Jul 2022 9:01 pm
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Bill, Does the pedals on yours steel connect to the pedal bar by brackets on each side of the pedal.
I would like to see a picture of how the pedals on your guitar attach to the pedal bar and pedal rod.
Both of the GFI Ultra's I have, The pedals slide into a circular about 270 degee grove extruded in the pedal bar. The pedals slide in and a stop with a set screw goes in on each side to hold the pedals in position.
And there is just a screw goes through the pedal and a plastic bushing with a groove is where the pedal rod connector hooks to the pedal.
I am wondering if there has been a change in design along the way. |
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Norbert Dengler
From: germany
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Posted 7 Jul 2022 9:42 pm
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no common issue on GFI guitars.
Bob at GFI sends you the needed parts in no time |
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Bill Duncan
From: Lenoir, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 8 Jul 2022 3:18 am
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Bobby D. Jones wrote: |
Bill, Does the pedals on yours steel connect to the pedal bar by brackets on each side of the pedal.
And there is just a screw goes through the pedal and a plastic bushing with a groove is where the pedal rod connector hooks to the pedal.
I am wondering if there has been a change in design along the way. |
Bobby, mine is as you describe. The screw that acts as an axel for the plastic bushing broke. It evidently was my fault for not making sure the bushing was able to spin free.
GFI has done things correctly and there is. nor will there be problems unless they are self inflicted as I have done. The ULTRA is a great guitar, well thought out and built...The original pickup, not so much. |
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Brint Hannay
From: Maryland, USA
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Posted 8 Jul 2022 9:02 pm
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I have a GFI Ultra SD10 which has several years' service under its belt as my gigging axe (before I got my Mullen PRP D10). I ordered it from Bobbe Seymour, but it came to me from GFI, because I wanted knee levers added to make my 3 X 7 copedent. The nylon (I think) bushings that connect the pedals to pedal rods have always been tightly screwed down. I have always assumed they were supposed to be--that the material offered minimal friction with the pedal rod connector. In fact, if one "got loose". i.e. would turn (rarely happened, and I think only on pedal C for some reason), I tightened it back down with the "axle (?)" screw. Have had no issues.
Are the bushings actually supposed to to turn??? ![Confused](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 9 Jul 2022 2:15 am
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I tightened the screws on the S-10 we had. I moved the pedal rod connections from one side of the pedal to the opposite side and moved the pedals slightly to the right to better line up with the knee levers. They were tight from the factory so I tightened them when I moved them.
I don't see anything moving on my new S-10 with pad (SD-10). |
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Bill Duncan
From: Lenoir, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 9 Jul 2022 4:18 am
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Jack Stoner wrote: |
I tightened the screws on the S-10 we had. I moved the pedal rod connections from one side of the pedal to the opposite side and moved the pedals slightly to the right to better line up with the knee levers. They were tight from the factory so I tightened them when I moved them.
I don't see anything moving on my new S-10 with pad (SD-10). |
The bushing that has the 8/32 screw going through and acting as an axel to connect the pedal rod to the pedal appears to me that it should be loose enough to turn free and not bind. I believe that is what caused the screw to break on my SD10. |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 9 Jul 2022 6:29 am
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I just checked mine again. Its "as built at factory". There is no movement of the nylon bushing or pedal rod connector. Pushing pedal just pulls pedal rod straight down. |
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