| On your C6th, which lever lowers C to B? |
| RKL |
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70% |
[ 26 ] |
| RKR |
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21% |
[ 8 ] |
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5% |
[ 2 ] |
| LKV |
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2% |
[ 1 ] |
| LKR |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| none |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
| other |
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0% |
[ 0 ] |
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| Total Votes : 37 |
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Topic: C6th - C to B lever - RKL or RKR? |
b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Tom Keller
From:
Greeneville, TN, USA
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Posted 16 Apr 2022 9:58 am |
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Andrew Frost
From:
Toronto, Ontario
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Posted 16 Apr 2022 12:18 pm
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| Right Knee moving left. And the Root notes of the tuning go up on RKR....Graphically opposite to how the Es move on the E neck. |
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Ian Rae
From:
Redditch, England
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Posted 16 Apr 2022 12:39 pm
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I play a uni, so it's already on LKV.
But on a plain C6 it would be RKL
Raise to C# RKR
4th string raise to Bb LKR
4th string lower to Ab LKL
This is all just fine and traditional and doesn't need fixing
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Colin Swinney
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 16 Apr 2022 1:00 pm
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| A whole world opened up for me on C6 once it occurred to me that the same lever that lowers my Eβs on E9 (RKL) serves the same function on C6 by going from a 1 to a 3 chord. |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 16 Apr 2022 4:49 pm
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| Andrew Frost wrote: |
| Right Knee moving left. And the Root notes of the tuning go up on RKR....Graphically opposite to how the Es move on the E neck. |
Isn't that how Sho~Bud E9th was originally set up, with E lowers on RKL and raises on RKR?
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 17 Apr 2022 12:34 am
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Yes. On pull-release guitars the 8th string was held up against the cutout by a crank and spring, and RKL was the simplest way to lower it.
This was long before F levers or lowering 4, so it was well established.
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Jack Stoner
From:
Kansas City, MO
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Posted 17 Apr 2022 2:02 am
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On the two D-10's I had (a PP Emmons and Franklin) it was on the RKL.
On the Franklin, RKR on C6th lowered 2nd string E to D#. |
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Andrew Frost
From:
Toronto, Ontario
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Posted 17 Apr 2022 3:57 pm
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| Isn't that how Sho~Bud E9th was originally set up, with E lowers on RKL and raises on RKR? |
That would be an intuitive set up. I'm just saying that w Es on the left, Emmons style, the back neck moves in kind of a mirror image.... Levering out, root(s) go up. Levering inward, root(s) go down. |
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 17 Apr 2022 5:18 pm
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| From everything Iβve read or heard from longtime players , the 3rd string C6 lower AND the E9 E lowers are an early ShoBud thing. Thatβs what I played first, and thatβs where those pulls are still on all of my steel guitars. |
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Dave Mudgett
From:
Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 17 Apr 2022 9:56 pm
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| I voted RKL, which is absolutely where I prefer it for C6 on a D10. But my 12-string universals have it on LKV, just because it's there for the E9 side of the tuning. It does confound me at times when I'm thinking in B6. But like everything else, it's a tradeoff. I'm very dug into the E=>Eb lower on RKL for E9, and also for making the move into B6 tuning. |
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