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Chris McElrath

 

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Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 10:08 am    
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I have a 1979 Emmons push pull D10 that I am trying to make "fit" me better. I got a set of one inch under height legs, and that put it EXACTLY where it needs to be for me. However, I am struggling to find pedal rods for it that correspond to the one inch under height length of the legs. The original rods are not that simple to re-thread. So I would love to hear from someone who could point me to where I could find a full set of 8 pedal rods that are compatible with a 79 push pull that are one inch under height. Thanks!
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Tim Johnson

 

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Cadiz, KY, USA
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 10:40 am     Rods
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What type hook is on your rod that connects to cross shaft?
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Chris McElrath

 

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Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 10:45 am    
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It's the kind where the rod goes down to a smaller size and then there is a bend right before the hook.
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Tim Johnson

 

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Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 10:48 am     Rods
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PM’d you
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Tim Johnson

 

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Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 11:27 am     Rods
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This is what I have, 22 1/2” long and for early Emmons push pull
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Tim Johnson

 

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Cadiz, KY, USA
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 11:29 am     Rods
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 12:02 pm    
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What's the problem with cutting them off and re-threading them?
That's what I do.
Erv
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Chris McElrath

 

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Texas, USA
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 12:09 pm    
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I have very basic tools and am not extremely good with them. I have a cheap tap and die set and a basic table top vice, but I cannot tighten it enough to keep the rods from turning while I try to cut threads. I did manage to get a little bit of thread started on one rod before it started spinning on me. In short, it is just too much of a job for me with the tools that I have. So, I'd rather just spend the money on some rods that have been done right instead of ending up breaking something.
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Erv Niehaus


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Litchfield, MN, USA
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 12:11 pm    
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Use some thread cutting oil on your die when cutting threads.
Erv
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Chris McElrath

 

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Texas, USA
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 12:18 pm    
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I was using oil, but like I said, I can't get my vice to hold the rod in place while I'm cutting the threads. It spins no matter how tight I have it, and it was to the point that it was literally leaving marks on the rod from the pressure of the vice. It seriously feels like it's about one more good turn from something snapping. It's far more worth it to me to just look for some rods that are already the right length.
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Chris McElrath

 

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Texas, USA
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 12:24 pm     Re: Rods
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Tim Johnson wrote:


Those are definitely a different style than mine, unfortunately.
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Tim Johnson

 

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Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 12:30 pm     Rods
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Yes these are for early emmons, thanks
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Chris McElrath

 

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Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 12:34 pm    
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Thank you Tim.I sure do wish those were the ones for mine!
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Tim Johnson

 

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Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 12:45 pm     Rods
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Your welcome, good luck with your search.
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 12:53 pm    
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Good luck finding the rods you need. FWIW, you probably need an adjustable die so that it opens up and takes a smaller chip, then adjust and re-thread.

You can find one at Amazon for about $10 in case you are interested. Of course you need the proper type tool to run it.
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Scott Moon


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Canyon Lake, TX
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 1:47 pm    
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Contact Kelsey at Emmons he might be able to help you out.
Scott
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Ian Worley


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Sacramento, CA
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 2:55 pm    
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Chris - how long are the hex end connectors? Some later PPs had longer connectors, 2-3/4". If yours are the longer ones, Michael Yahl sells the older style that are only 1-3/4", just swap them out and you're good to go https://www.psgparts.com/Connector-Rod-Pedal-05-036.htm
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Chris McElrath

 

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Texas, USA
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 3:03 pm    
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Ian Worley wrote:
Chris - how long are the hex end connectors? Some later PPs had longer connectors, 2-3/4". If yours are the longer ones, Michael Yahl sells the older style that are only 1-3/4", just swap them out and you're good to go https://www.psgparts.com/Connector-Rod-Pedal-05-036.htm


Mine are the older, shorter ones.
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Chris McElrath

 

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Texas, USA
Post  Posted 13 Apr 2022 3:32 pm    
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I have contacted both Michael Yahl and Billy Knowles, and neither of them could help me on this.
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Chris McElrath

 

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Texas, USA
Post  Posted 14 Apr 2022 8:15 am    
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I'll post a picture of my rods in a little while when I get a minute, so it will be 100% clear what it is that I need.
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Bill Terry


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Bastrop, TX
Post  Posted 15 Apr 2022 4:56 am    
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I'm guessing the rods Chris has are the reduced diameter hook, like the photo in this thread:

https://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=3005871&sid=9fa16ed71c554a9c22732f02c2b08291

I'm pretty sure I had a P/P a one point that had one rod like Tim has pictured, and the rest were the 'stepped' hook. It worked on that particular guitar.
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Chris McElrath

 

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Texas, USA
Post  Posted 15 Apr 2022 5:09 am    
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Yes Bill, mine look more like that.
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