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Topic: What book/method has Complete set of chord shapes? |
Mick OGrady
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Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 5 Feb 2022 8:40 am |
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I was wondering what is the best book/source that has all shapes/grips for all chords and inversions, including all 7th chords min7, dom 7 plus extensions/alterations, half diminished etc., for both E9 and C6 necks.
When I was studying chord shapes on guitar we learned about drop 2s an drop 3s. Drop 2s are basically taking the inversions for all 7th chords, dropping the second note from the top one octave to open the voicings so they are playable on guitar. This would lead to 4 different shapes for all seventh chords on each set of of 4 adjacent strings on guitar (i.e., string groups 1-4, 2-5,and 3-6). For every chord you would end up with 12 different shapes to memorize for the drop 2s and 8 shapes (strings 1,2,3&5 and 2,3,4 &6) for the drop 3s. This would pretty much cover all the shapes you would need to get obtain the shortest path between chords like ii-V-I's which makes for very nice voice leading. Is there a similar approach to pedal steel guitar that is TABed out somewhere. |
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Derek Evans
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Posted 7 Feb 2022 3:45 am chords
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Hi Mick I have in my collection of tutors ,Hal Leonard pedal steel
chords and scales. 1,100 chords and 430 scales by Chad Johnson.
Hope this helps. |
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Mick OGrady
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Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 7 Feb 2022 8:32 am
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| Thanks Derek. |
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Charlie Hansen
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Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.
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Posted 7 Feb 2022 7:56 pm Re: chords
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| Derek Evans wrote: |
Hi Mick I have in my collection of tutors ,Hal Leonard pedal steel
chords and scales. 1,100 chords and 430 scales by Chad Johnson.
Hope this helps. |
I have this book and it’s helped me more than once.
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I don't know much but what I know I know very well.
Carter S-10 3X5, Peavey Nashville 112, plus Regal dobro and too many other instruments to mention.
Bluegrass Island CFCY FM 95.1 Charlottetown, PE, Canada, on the web at cfcy.fm.
A Touch Of Texas CIOE FM 97.5 Sackville, NS, Canada,
on the web at cioe975.ca. |
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 8 Feb 2022 1:25 am
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More than once?
Does that make it worth the money?
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Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs |
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Charlie Hansen
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Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.
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Posted 8 Feb 2022 5:05 am
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More than once?
Does that make it worth the money?
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Of course 1000 times is more than once.
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I don't know much but what I know I know very well.
Carter S-10 3X5, Peavey Nashville 112, plus Regal dobro and too many other instruments to mention.
Bluegrass Island CFCY FM 95.1 Charlottetown, PE, Canada, on the web at cfcy.fm.
A Touch Of Texas CIOE FM 97.5 Sackville, NS, Canada,
on the web at cioe975.ca. |
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Mick OGrady
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Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 8 Feb 2022 7:11 am Re: chords
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| Charlie Hansen wrote: |
| Derek Evans wrote: |
Hi Mick I have in my collection of tutors ,Hal Leonard pedal steel
chords and scales. 1,100 chords and 430 scales by Chad Johnson.
Hope this helps. |
I have this book and it’s helped me more than once. |
Great. Thank you |
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Fred Treece
From:
California, USA
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Posted 8 Feb 2022 9:56 am Re: chords
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| Derek Evans wrote: |
Hi Mick I have in my collection of tutors ,Hal Leonard pedal steel
chords and scales. 1,100 chords and 430 scales by Chad Johnson.
Hope this helps. |
Sounds like one of those “1001 Chords!” books that gives you 20 chord shapes, labels them with all their synonyms, and then transposes them to all 11 other major keys and their relative minors.
If you use an Apple device, Get forum member John Sohn’s free app:
https://steelsidekick.com/
and apply your acquired knowledge from guitar. |
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Ian Rae
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Redditch, England
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Posted 8 Feb 2022 12:36 pm
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| Charlie Hansen wrote: |
| 1000 times is more than once |
Fair enough, Charlie!
Just checking...
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Make sleeping dogs tell the truth!
Homebuilt keyless U12 7x5, Excel keyless U12 8x8, Williams keyless U12 7x8, Telonics rack and 15" cabs |
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Charlie Hansen
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Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.
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Posted 8 Feb 2022 12:38 pm
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| Ian Rae wrote: |
| Charlie Hansen wrote: |
| 1000 times is more than once |
Fair enough, Charlie!
Just checking... |
Always like to have someone check my math ;-{).
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I don't know much but what I know I know very well.
Carter S-10 3X5, Peavey Nashville 112, plus Regal dobro and too many other instruments to mention.
Bluegrass Island CFCY FM 95.1 Charlottetown, PE, Canada, on the web at cfcy.fm.
A Touch Of Texas CIOE FM 97.5 Sackville, NS, Canada,
on the web at cioe975.ca. |
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Mick OGrady
From:
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 9 Feb 2022 4:45 am Re: chords
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| Fred Treece wrote: |
| Derek Evans wrote: |
Hi Mick I have in my collection of tutors ,Hal Leonard pedal steel
chords and scales. 1,100 chords and 430 scales by Chad Johnson.
Hope this helps. |
Sounds like one of those “1001 Chords!” books that gives you 20 chord shapes, labels them with all their synonyms, and then transposes them to all 11 other major keys and their relative minors.
If you use an Apple device, Get forum member John Sohn’s free app:
https://steelsidekick.com/
and apply your acquired knowledge from guitar. |
I just ordered this book and I sure hope that it is not just triads and relative minors.
Too bad the steelsidekick is only for apple. |
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Ron Funk
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Ballwin, Missouri
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Posted 10 Feb 2022 8:01 pm
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Hi Mick -
FYI, Doug Jernigan offers very extensive chord dictionaries
one for E9th
one for C6th
Each booklet has over 40 pages of examples
Ron |
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Jim Kennedy
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Brentwood California, USA
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Posted 11 Feb 2022 11:05 am
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Tom Bradshaw has his chord book posted on his website. It has major, minor, diminished, augmented and extended chords in the key of E, all inversions on the neck,for standard e9 3&4 setup. Transpose accordingly for whatever key you are playing in.
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Tom Bradshaw
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Walnut Creek, California, USA
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Posted 13 Feb 2022 9:58 am But where is Bradshaw's
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Hey, I happen to know the answer to that question: It is at http://www.songwriter.com/bradshaw/chord_construction.php And I think every steeler should know what's in it.
P.S.: For reasons unknown, when this webpage opens, it doesn't open to the beginning page. If that happens to you, scroll down to the end of whatever Chapter does open, then click on the beginning Introduction titled "A Bit of History."
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Ron Hogan
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Nashville, TN, usa
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Detlef Webert
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Europe - DE
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Posted 14 Feb 2022 1:39 pm
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Ron,
very useful link.
Thanks, |
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Mick OGrady
From:
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 15 Feb 2022 9:48 pm Re: But where is Bradshaw's
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That link works now.
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Fred Treece
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California, USA
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Mick OGrady
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Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 16 Feb 2022 11:39 am Re: But where is Bradshaw's
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Thank you Tom. I will give this a close look. |
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Mick OGrady
From:
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 23 Feb 2022 6:16 am Re: chords
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[quote="Fred Treece"]
| Derek Evans wrote: |
Hi Mick I have in my collection of tutors ,Hal Leonard pedal steel
chords and scales. 1,100 chords and 430 scales by Chad Johnson.
Hope this helps. |
Sounds like one of those “1001 Chords!” books that gives you 20 chord shapes, labels them with all their synonyms, and then transposes them to all 11 other major keys and their relative minors.
Fred,
It's worse than you predicted. I ordered the book and received it yesterday. It was a serious disappointment.
First, there is a picture on the cover with two necks but the content is only for E9 and it does not even have all the grips in one position for a major chord. The front page and the product description do not even mention it is only for E9. I am sure disappointed. I wrote Hal Leonard to complain. We will see what they say. I will find a way to use it but there must be something out there that is more comprehensive for both necks. Also as you imply, it is wasted space to do the same shapes for all 12 keys. Why not just get all the shapes in all positions for one key and be comprehensive. |
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Fred Treece
From:
California, USA
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Posted 23 Feb 2022 9:15 am
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| Aye...it’s a travesty, Mick |
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Tom Bradshaw
From:
Walnut Creek, California, USA
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Posted 23 Feb 2022 9:36 am Link correction
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| I provided the wrong link address to my "Chord Construction..." paper. I also added another notice about the paper, so everyone please go back and read my previous entry. ...Tom |
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Anders Eriksson
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Mora, Dalecarlia, Sweden
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