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Michael Behrent


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Wisconsin, USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2015 6:36 am    
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I'm real new to the lap steel and traded into a cheap Rogue RLS-1. The tuning machines are pretty sloppy and wonder if anyone could recommend some not too expensive replacements of better quality. Any help would be appreciated.
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Greg Moynihan


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Bremerton, Washington, USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2015 7:41 am    
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A dab of Teflon grease in the nut slots and in the gears helps wonders, sometimes. Stewart Macdonald has a fine selection of tuners. Golden Age Restoration tuners should be a big upgrade, they start at 37 bucks and go up for finish options. They also have an economy set for about 10, but thats likely to be really similar to the set you have already. Check the measurements, the spacing might or might not match

Link to tuners on Stewmac.com.
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Michael Behrent


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Wisconsin, USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2015 8:55 am     Better tuners for Rogue RLS-1
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Thanks Greg. The problem with the current tuners seems to be poor fit between the gears on a couple of them. Very sloppy fit. I'll check out StewMac.
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Robert Allen

 

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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2015 10:46 am    
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http://sagamusic.com/products/show-parts-accessories.aspx?family=9&body_typeid=tuners Unless someone specifies otherwise, this is where I buy all the tuners for Melbert Steels. Excellent quality and good prices.
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Michael Behrent


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Wisconsin, USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2015 11:03 am    
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Thanks Robert, I bookmarked the site. I plan on eventually building a lap steel and that will be handy. I know this Rogue is kind of a bottom feeder but it should do for a complete beginner like me as long as I can fix that tuner problem.
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Doug Clark

 

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Maine, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jun 2015 12:34 pm    
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Did you upgrade it, and what did you use?

I'm the New Guy. I got a bunch'a questions. Wink
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Michael Behrent


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Wisconsin, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jun 2015 4:01 pm    
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I got an inexpensive set of tuners from Stewart MacDonald and put them on when I changed strings. Made for a big improvement. Smooth and no slop and holds tune very well.
http://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_Parts/Tuning_Machines/Guitar_and_Slotted_Peghead/Economy_3-on-Plate_Tuners.html
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Doug Clark

 

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Maine, USA
Post  Posted 6 Jun 2015 7:46 pm    
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Cool; thanks, Michael.

I might be upgrading a low-budget lap some day, although probably not an RLS-1.
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Michael Behrent


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Wisconsin, USA
Post  Posted 7 Jun 2015 5:25 am    
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The RLS-1 has the slotted head, my Supro and Gold Tone have the standard head that uses regular tuners. I did change out the tuners on the Gold Tone as well because the tuners on it were plain worn out. In this case I just used some I had in my parts bin.
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Wayne Shriver

 

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New York, USA
Post  Posted 10 Jul 2015 8:36 pm     Rogue RLS-1 Hum
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I just got the same Rogue RLS-1 lap steel and I have a tech question. I plugged it into my Kustom 50 Amp amplifier and when I turn up the volume to get a good sound, there is a noticeable hum. I was told the hum is caused by the single-coil pick-up on the guitar. If this true, can I upgrade the pick-up to get rid of the hum, and if so, what kind do I get? If this not the guitar pick-up, do I need a guitar amp? Or is this because this model guitar is a low-end instrument and I really can't do anything except buy a better guitar?
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Michael Behrent


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Wisconsin, USA
Post  Posted 11 Jul 2015 5:29 am    
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Wayne, most likely it's the single coil pup and that can be upgraded. I've read that there are single coil size pups that are essentially humbuckers with a counterwound coil under the primary coil. I use a Roland Street Cube amp with mine that runs on batteries and haven't had any problem with hum.
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Blake Hawkins


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Florida
Post  Posted 11 Jul 2015 1:45 pm    
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Wayne, Be sure you are not sitting too close to the amp. The single coil can pickup the hum from the power transformer.
Three or four feet should be ok, but it is best to try different distances and different orientation
of the guitar to the amp.
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Charlie Hansen


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Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.
Post  Posted 1 Feb 2022 6:06 am    
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There are humbuckers on Ebay made by Guitar Madness that will fit right in for about $21.00.
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Brad Richard


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Chisago City, Minnesota
Post  Posted 1 Feb 2022 2:18 pm    
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I've got an RSL-1 also and I switched out the pup with a Bill Lawrence L45-S humbucker.
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Tommy Martin Young


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Post  Posted 1 Feb 2022 3:20 pm    
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I used these and they were a perfect match. After a year no complaints.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JLT9916/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Charlie Hansen


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Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.
Post  Posted 2 Feb 2022 7:08 pm    
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Michael Behrent wrote:
I got an inexpensive set of tuners from Stewart MacDonald and put them on when I changed strings. Made for a big improvement. Smooth and no slop and holds tune very well.
http://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_Parts/Tuning_Machines/Guitar_and_Slotted_Peghead/Economy_3-on-Plate_Tuners.html


Do these tuners fit without altering the guitar?
_________________
I don't know much but what I know I know very well.
Carter S-10 3X5, Peavey Nashville 112, plus Regal dobro and too many other instruments to mention.
Bluegrass Island CFCY FM 95.1 Charlottetown, PE, Canada, on the web at cfcy.fm.
A Touch Of Texas CIOE FM 97.5 Sackville, NS, Canada,
on the web at cioe975.ca.
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Charlie Hansen


From:
Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2022 4:16 pm    
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Tommy Martin Young wrote:
I used these and they were a perfect match. After a year no complaints.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JLT9916/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Do these fit without modifying the guitar?
_________________
I don't know much but what I know I know very well.
Carter S-10 3X5, Peavey Nashville 112, plus Regal dobro and too many other instruments to mention.
Bluegrass Island CFCY FM 95.1 Charlottetown, PE, Canada, on the web at cfcy.fm.
A Touch Of Texas CIOE FM 97.5 Sackville, NS, Canada,
on the web at cioe975.ca.
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Tommy Martin Young


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Sacramento-California, USA
Post  Posted 3 Feb 2022 8:44 pm    
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Charlie Hansen wrote:
Tommy Martin Young wrote:
I used these and they were a perfect match. After a year no complaints.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01JLT9916/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1


Do these fit without modifying the guitar?


YES = perfect fit.
_________________
The One & Lonely Tommy Young

"Now is the time for drinking;
now the time to beat the earth with unfettered foot."
-Quintus Horatius Flaccus (65-8 B.C.)
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Charlie Hansen


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Halifax, NS Canada and Various Southern Towns.
Post  Posted 4 Feb 2022 5:37 am    
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Thanks for yout reply.
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I don't know much but what I know I know very well.
Carter S-10 3X5, Peavey Nashville 112, plus Regal dobro and too many other instruments to mention.
Bluegrass Island CFCY FM 95.1 Charlottetown, PE, Canada, on the web at cfcy.fm.
A Touch Of Texas CIOE FM 97.5 Sackville, NS, Canada,
on the web at cioe975.ca.
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