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Topic: MSA Millenium legs slipping PARTLY solved |
Keith Bolog
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Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2021 3:58 pm |
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update 12.23
I tried all the suggestions here thank you . NFG. This lock uses split parts for the clutch. I increased the gap, theorizing that would let them travel a little more before they meet. I can get them tight enough to hold the guitar up although they still can be compressed with enough pressure. Good enough. Next fix: Good ol boy shade tree method: a hose clamp
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That is, the legs wont stay locked and telescope in with the slightest pressure. These are the carbon fiber ones, as new.
The clutch (?) wont hold the rear legs at height no matter how tight. The parts inside look very similar to other legs.
Is there a simple fix to add friction to the clutch? thanks
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Ricky Davis
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Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2021 4:25 pm
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Keith Bolog
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2021 7:05 pm clean and tighten??
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say what? I need to rephrase.
Legs are cleaner than clean already, the threads are perfect and operate smoothly. its like the leg is too slippery all you need do is push the top of the guitar and they telescope in. Needs more friction
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Don Downes
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New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2021 8:44 pm
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My 74 MSA Classic is the same way. It sucks! I'm 69 years young, and when I get on my knees to make any adjustments, if I prop myself up using the guitar, it collapses.
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 12 Dec 2021 8:56 pm
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Keith Bolog
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2021 6:17 am before pictures
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Politely - I know exactly what you mean about those steel legs and appreciate that tip, I didnt know the threads were the cause.
This is what they looked like before cleaning. Those are dust particles and the threaded parts are aluminum. Afterward the white rag was free of debris. Shavings are NOT the problem.
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 13 Dec 2021 8:59 am
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Keith Bolog
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 14 Dec 2021 3:16 pm ttt
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anyone else?
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 14 Dec 2021 3:26 pm
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I would suggest replacing the clutch assembly parts. If they are not the standard Atlas parts, perhaps the guys at MSA can send you new parts or direct you to the source. Else, consider buying an entire new leg.
Best of luck. |
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Ricky Davis
From:
Bertram, Texas USA
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Posted 14 Dec 2021 4:13 pm
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Roy Thomas
From:
Louisiana, USA
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Posted 14 Dec 2021 4:22 pm hard to say
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yep pictures say a lot.
if they are carbon fiber, you need to be careful. as a redneck/cajun/hilly billy method, try adding a thin o-ring to the assy. when you tighten the collar, the o-ring will compress adding friction.
however, the original assy should do its job. |
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Donny Hinson
From:
Glen Burnie, Md. U.S.A.
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Posted 14 Dec 2021 4:36 pm
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| Most of the problems I've encountered have been due to three things: The first is improper assembly, meaning that the bevel on the beveled washer was not against the split sleeve, or that those two parts were not installed properly onto the leg. The second problem is a broken or worn split sleeve. And the third is a split sleeve with oil or dirt on it. (The split sleeve should be cleaned in acetone or alcohol so that it's totally clean and oil-free. And likewise, the small leg tube must also be clean and oil-free.) It's okay to add one drop of oil onto the outer leg threads so that the collar turns more freely, but if you use too much or get it on the inner tube, you've screwed it up and have to do it all over again. |
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